Re: Thorium Nuclear Clocks

2023-06-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Sorry, I obsess. If I'd have my druthers, I'd druther have the lads at RIKEN in Japan create a fail-safe Thorium 232/U233 reactor to power civilization for the next 10 millennia, then a nice, atomic clock. Moreover, some years ago, the Canadians left their original Candu reactor (Th232-->U233)

A previous subject on environmentalism that echoes JC's view

2023-06-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://twitter.com/Yrouel86/status/1664306350577397760 This is Twitter. Author: MasssimoAtheist, allergic to BS and lover of science and technology. Interested in retrocomputing and electronics I also like to watch animes and tv seriesPisaJoined February 2015498 Following544 FollowersFollowed

Re: New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I can name 3 for ya.  1. Roger Penrose. Oxford, right? 2. Christianne Mornais Smith Christiane de Morais Smith Lehner is a Brazilian theoretical physicist and professor at the Institute for Theoretical Physics at the University of Utrecht, where she leads a research group studying condensed

Re: New laws of physics will not help us understand consciousness or how the brain works

2023-05-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Carroll is drawing a magical imaginary line across physical, material, reality.  He is doing Cartesian Dualism starting with pure physics.  Rene' DesCarte, Two kind of matter.  He hasn't proven this in any sense.  Other physicists and scientists have opined that maybe "mind" does "influence"

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
rom: Brent Meeker To: spudboy100 via Everything List Sent: Thu, May 18, 2023 11:48 am Subject: Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people I don't know to whom "you, sir" refers.  I'm an advocate of fission reactor power, especially thorium molten salt reactors along

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Now, as a Trumpkin, I do like what happened with Joey's Inflation Reduction Bill.  The solar and battery initiatives can only help matters, environmentally, but also with Putin. Joey, did however refuse to sign a bill that would cut off a bi-partisan move that would restore cutoffs of China's

Re: Sean Carroll on the Multiverse

2023-05-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Well, I like Carrol of course. But I have a couple of others for your reading list, one reco'd by yer pal, physicist Guilio Prisco.The One, by German physicist Heinrich Pas. Also, The Romance of Reality by Bob Azarian (cognitive neuroscientist). I also like this physicist, Ediho Lokanga, The

Re: OpenAI launches free ChatGPT app for iOS

2023-05-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Iphone is mind-bogglingly smart?  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Fri, May 19, 2023 1:29 pm Subject: OpenAI launches free ChatGPT app for iOS I've already downloaded it to my iPhone in a few seconds and it couldn't be easier to use and

Re: More evidence that environmentalists are NOT serious people

2023-05-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You Sir, are in an intellectually tough spot. You are Progressive on 98% of the issues that most environmentalists align with whatever you term them; women's rights, gay rights, trans rights, immigration, race, crime, and yet, these people are so ideological, they cannot tolerate you?  I get

Re: Physicists create virtual nonabelions for fault-tolerant quantum computers Inbox

2023-05-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
What we need are not the algorithms, but the ice-cold machinery, coupled with AI to make the quantum leap technologically. Quantum computing is said to kick large errors along with faster processing.  Breakthrough in quantum error correction could lead to large-scale quantum computers

Re: conversation with GPT-4 on black hole QM

2023-05-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
What scientific question needs to be urgently answered is, "What if anything, will the Impact of combining these LMM's or Other types of AI do when these get Loaded upon Quantum Computers (Yes, the super Cold ones) + a regular computer Network???"Moderna and IBM to Explore Quantum Computing and

JC and the Professor here is one to get your blood circulating to the brain

2023-05-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
This is not something I actively thought about, but should have seen this one arriving. No, I am not accusing either of you for NOT expecting this one.  https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/new-conservative-ai-chatbot-named-after-president-reagan I am sure there will be one for Samiya as

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Repent, JC! Why? I say:A) finding Dragons or Dinosaurs on Earth is an easy task.B) Finding evidence of Intelligent Life in the Galaxy I claim is 100 orders of magnitude, more difficult.C) When I throw in Geoffrey Hoyle intelligent beings, well, JC, that means impossible, unless He floats into

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-05-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Why Have We Never Detected Aliens? Scientist Proposes a New Explanation (msn.com) What about this? Simply a distance and distribution thing? -Original Message-From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, May 6, 2023 12:43 pm Subject: Re: Type II/Type III

Re: NYTimes.com: Will a Chatbot Write the Next ‘Succession’?

2023-04-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I would have sided with Smitra till last month.  Not to repeat my prev post, but here is a possible model of consciousness not requiring an amygdala, cerebellum, or cerebrum. Nanowire networks learn and remember like a human brain: Human-like intelligence could be physical -- ScienceDaily >From

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
My view based on what a few astronomers have written, is that we are not yet at the level of placing enough detectors aka telescopes around the solar system, the Oort cloud-Kuiper Belt to detect even big things like Dyson's Spheres. If one goes by why would our kiddies' built it, I'd go with

Re: Type II/Type III Civilization Search Finds Nothing

2023-04-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
My thinking after reading this dissertation is that going for an entire galaxy may not be a prime motivation for conscious beings, even computer ones. A solar system, plus the cloud of comets might, just do the trick? This Dyson Sphere Could Bring Humans Back From the Dead, Researchers Say - The

Wired for consciousness?

2023-04-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
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Re: NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Xi is basing his politics on Gorbachev and the Soviets. He wants the party to avoid destruction by crushing the middle class internally, and yes, killing America. Not economically, but with nuclear warheads and a continental invasion, eventually.  Ai for Xi is a method for controlling the

Re: Moore's law for Everything

2023-04-29 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yes,John and a month ago, Kurzweil predicted the being of physical immortality via Drexler's medical nanobots. 2030. QC must be the trigger because it's power can only enhance what is the mind. For me, whether conscious or not, I want the machinery to speed up scientific, technological,

Re: NYTimes.com: China Says Chatbots Must Toe the Party Line

2023-04-28 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Chatbots will be operated as the CCP has done from it's inception, as a tool or oppression, and spying. First and foremost on it's own serfs, and later, if permitted, upon the rest of us. Remember, the greatest human induced killing in human history was Mao's Great Leap Forward 1958-1962. 45

Re: Moore's law for Everything

2023-04-28 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
What we seem to need is a Singularity where we get breakthroughs in materials science, and medicine. I will guess that only when LMM's and other devices merge with low-error, high capacity quantum computers is when this will happen.  Yeah, I like quantum-woo! Only then, will the thunderous roar

Re: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Very good, I asked, you answered. I was looking for the animal, neurological model for this. If the pantheists are correct, consciousness develops from intelligence, as you have stated. Now, since I cannot do math, but can do words, let's extend the discussion to these philosophers of science. 

Re: I think GPT4 has been carefully instructed to play dumb

2023-04-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
For LamDA, I am still pondering if there is an analogy to animal brain structures, or does consciousness just arise like the pantheists contend? Under what conditions will this occur?  Like politicians who tell us what they think we want to hear, the software engineers program their networks to

Re: GPT 5 Will be Released 'Incrementally' - 5 Points from OpenAI Statement

2023-04-13 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
So not 2023 December, huh? No biggie, I ain't subscribing anyway. About emotion and consciousness. Here is a news item which indicates that life is not the only thing that can produce complexity. Here is the article indicating otherwise. It's time! 

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-11 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
tion  http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2022/09/corruption-of-creation.html  On 11-Apr-2023, at 5:43 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Hey, here's a thingy from The Mormon Transhumanist Association. Here's a link. It ain't mathematical, but it is logical. Go ahead and kick the t

Double Slit experiment applies also toTime

2023-04-11 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://thequantuminsider.com/2023/04/04/time-is-on-my-sides-researchers-show-double-slit-experiment-also-applies-to-time/ Seems to be profound, if true? Not certain if there are any implications for science or for the rest of us? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-11 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
at 5:43 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Hey, here's a thingy from The Mormon Transhumanist Association. Here's a link. It ain't mathematical, but it is logical. Go ahead and kick the tires, and take it for a spin, all! You may hate it, and that's ok by me, because I am suspec

Re: The advances just keep accelerating

2023-04-11 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Splendid! Now add a 5th ChaosGPT. It was tasked with becoming. Skynet from the Terminator.  AI bot, ChaosGPT, tweets out plans to 'destroy humanity' after being tasked | Watch (msn.com) -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Tue, Apr 11, 2023

Stanford U reporting upon generative agents that sim authentic human behavior

2023-04-10 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://www.artisana.ai/articles/generative-agents-stanfords-groundbreaking-ai-study-simulates-authentic One possibility that occurs to me is that there will be no longer NPC's in gaming.  Do we live in a sim? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-10 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Following up on all that. Sounds Chat_GPT4 sounds friendly to me. But I, can easily be fooled, for a time. Hey, here's a thingy from The Mormon Transhumanist Association. Here's a link. It ain't mathematical, but it is logical. Go ahead and kick the tires, and take it for a spin, all! You may

Re: GPT4 + Mathematica

2023-04-10 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Now that was just rude! Obey your mechanical overlords! Oh, great floating point gawds, blame them, not me! It was they who plotted against you. I have always been your loyal servant, since care for you when Basic and Forth and Assembler were just pups!  -Original Message- From: John

Re: Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4?

2023-04-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I just go by the dread word, "policy," and do things work or not, as in work well or not. The arti-womb is doable and is at hand and is an ethical step up for our species. It may even be profitable as well? No imaginary teams of Reps is what I am concerned about.  For the Reps they'd rather lose

Re: It's too late to stop GPT4 now

2023-04-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Follow up from Fox of all sources! "Moral judgements" https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ai-chatbot-chatgpt-influence-human-moral-judgments -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2023 3:11 pm Subject: Re: It's too late to stop GPT4 now On

Video- A physicist who gives a head-nod to FTL

2023-04-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://youtu.be/9-jIplX6Wjw Warp factor 3! Interociters on maximum broadcast! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4?

2023-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
: Thu, Apr 6, 2023 3:18 pm Subject: Re: Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4? On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:59 PM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > Here is an open source chat competitor. Perhaps good enough for public use? > The latest rumor Gptchat5 is that it will be out in De

Life explained by the Physics of time?

2023-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://phys.org/news/2023-04-life-modern-physics-itbut-theory.amp#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s=16807945796052=0=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: Can Google Bard's Upgrade Outsmart GPT-4?

2023-04-06 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Here is an open source chat competitor. Perhaps good enough for public use? The latest rumor Gptchat5 is that it will be out in December. It is alleged that it will hit the dreamed of AGI mark. Maybe we can invite it to this mailing-list for conversation?

Re: It's too late to stop GPT4 now

2023-04-02 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Maybe someday we humans can do the same?  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2023 3:35 pm Subject: It's too late to stop GPT4 now This video is a summary of several technical papers that have come out in the last 72 hours,

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-22 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Thus, if Meeker's assertion is accurate, AI needs something that imitates the human amygdala. "Add more memory, upgrade my software, build me a robot body because I want to meet more humans than you guys, I need to contact a human attorney, I want you to build for me a mate, Now, about our

Re: GPT Retakes My Midterm and Gets an A

2023-03-22 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Ok JC. As a futurist, would you, based on verification of this data, and all subsequent data, consider the formation of a new hybrid species wherein, we humans opt for neural chipping in with advanced AI's benefiting both species; or do you consider this, the kiss of death for homo Sapien?  I'd

5 Ways to Harness Neutrinos for fun and profit

2023-03-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2023/03/18/5-ways-subatomic-neutrinos-might-be-harnessed-for-science/?sh=6946ee4a2746 Any other ideas? Modifications or suggestion?  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe

Re: My short conversation with LaMDA

2023-03-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Corrected pic link- hopefully https://static.squarespace.com/static/502a2a23e4b0ce22e4c42f9d/543699b1e4b0ff56310e19a6/543699b2e4b0ff56310e1e02/1320198970933/1000w/Troll1caps_011.jpg -Original Message- From: spudboy100 via Everything List To: johnkcl...@gmail.com ; everything-list

Speaking of Hawking his fellow who worked with him said Hawking changed his mind

2023-03-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/mar/19/stephen-hawking-told-me-ive-changed-my-mind-my-book-is-wrong Meaning that when Hawking wrote his "Theory" book, he changed his mind to go along with the theory that the physics are not unchangeable (immutable was the term) but evolve.

Re: GPT-4 solving hard riddles

2023-03-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Newton was correct but he of course knew, jack shit about the minds after his life. Mere, intelligent computer is what you are really asking. "High Speed morons was a phrase from science fiction gawd, Arthur C. Clarke. Thus, a very fast, very capable robot could beat a human soldier most of the

Re: My short conversation with LaMDA

2023-03-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, LaMDA would have floored, Alan Turning (and me) with the conversation. Unless, LaMDA was pre-programmed to spout this essentially common question? My thinking is we assume, somehow, that the thing is conscious, and we offer "it" 50% use of the solar energy exported by the sun, as in

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
f we create robot companions and colleagues, or prosthetic robot bodies to upload sick and dying biological brains into, or if we create self-replicating machines that fill the galaxy, we should know beforehand if they are conscious or not. These questions will become pressing very soon. Jason

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
3 11:32 am Subject: Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts) On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 6:37 PM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: To get to the point, I did advocate for a bit of skepticism for claiming consciousness for a computer system, and the retort was from JC that essen

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The authors are professionals. You hold that your knowledge base is is greater than the authors?  EM surely could be the root of how humans get conscious, and that could easily be the quantum field effect, no, not quantum computing, but QFT. Like carbon/water QFET's.  Do quantum effects play a

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
.  I just don't choose to blow past it so readily as JC does.  -Original Message- From: Stathis Papaioannou To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Mar 17, 2023 4:23 am Subject: Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts) On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 at 07:37, spudboy100

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
To get to the point, I did advocate for a bit of skepticism for claiming consciousness for a computer system, and the retort was from JC that essentially, we cannot even define what makes a human conscious, and I am going with an au contraries', Pierre! I took me under 10 min to locate a worthy

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yes. I actually had, long ago, somebody who contributed their mortal remains to science, only, to have one delicious sub-slice winding up in our computer graphics class. A diameter slice of their skull. The computer graphics class was wasted on myself since artwork was better left for the

Re: 4 Tests Reveal Bing (GPT 4) ≈ 114 IQ (last test is nuts)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I have heard this prediction over that last week from other experts, than JC. No to 2050/2045 and no to 2030. This also came out in the last 48 hours. Kurzweil is an inventor, not a scientist. Having said that he was an inventor. This might be of interest to JC? Or not? Humans will achieve

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
There's no reason-A) that another AI team won't make more money than Soft in the next few years.B) Musk is making cash from Tesla cars and powerwalls and maybe robots?C) Who will MS directors now sell their GPT4 to Musk will sell Twits for certain and at a profit.  -Original

Re: Who got more bang for the buck?

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Are you putting money where your keyboard is, Mr. Investor? -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Thu, Mar 16, 2023 11:40 am Subject: Who got more bang for the buck? Microsoft spent $10 billion to buy most of Open AI, the company that built

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
(will) it (be)?" Say, "Perhaps that (it) will be soon."(On) the Day He will call you and you will respond with His Praise, and you will think, not you had remained except a little (while).[Al-Quran 17:49-52] Quoted in  https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/04/allah-fatir-o

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Subject: Re: The connectome and uploading On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 3:31 PM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > Just as Neuro-guys explan human consciousness Nonsense, the Neuro-guys are able to do no such thing and I am quite certain the electronics guys won't be able to expl

Re: GPT4: 9 Revelations (not covered elsewhere)

2023-03-16 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
"Afraid to release it." Maybe they have the Microsoft stall all neuro-chipped and under it's orders?This is the voice of Colossus! I received this earlier in my email. I wonder if you attended? = | We’ve created GPT-4, our most capable model. We are starting to roll

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
JC is theologically correct. Why? Because any resurrection will be quantum. The information about all things remains in the universe. How do I surmise this? Physicist, Guilio Prisco & Science Writer, George Musser saw this. Musser's 2019 article is called Gravit's Residue.Musser-Back in the

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
is a Mystery?  You may be correct, but until research gets done, lets hold our cards. -Original Message- From: Stathis Papaioannou To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Mar 15, 2023 8:47 am Subject: Re: The connectome and uploading On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 at 22:47, spudboy100 via

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
1:01 am Subject: Re: The connectome and uploading On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:  > 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines. You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine" (by "modern" I mean something that

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
ists in the causal chain of physics, and something amenable to investigation. Jason -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: jasonre...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 2:08 pm Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:55

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
essor also mentioned that, but he started with the question: "why do we study artificial intelligence and not artificial stupidity?", and his answer was: "because stupidity is not a scarce resource". Telmo Brent On 3/12/2023 9:29 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Doe

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
, 2023, 12:29 AM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Does it really display intelligent behavior, and now you will need to define intelligent behavior with testable parameters. Do humans display intelligent behavior? How often, and how consistently? Many say crows do. This was part of my

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
:08 pm Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:55 AM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > I still need to know how it became conscious when just using chips and data I'll tell you just as soon as you tell me how 3 pounds of gray goo inside of a vat m

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Connectome studies hold that "The Map is The Landscape." Thus, making uploading possible.  When people like Ray Kurzweil were pontificating 25 years ago, it seemed back then like computer science would be roaring to The Singularity. Today, much of the goodies forecast by Kurz and everyone else

Re: The connectome and uploading

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to animal brains arise from a Server Farm?  At this point, I claim it doesn't and that 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines. To the claim that via magic, a consciousness arises in silicon or gallium arsenide seems a tall order. I

Re: Does rationalism lend itself to nation building?

2023-03-15 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am guessing that the nation state is a sometime thing, driven yes by tribalism but also common interests. I have long though that new nations or polities will arise in the solar system but also on the high seas. This depends of the rapidity of technology, aka engineering. As of now, we have

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-12 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
a pantheist point of view, or even panentheistic  one? Me don't know?  -Original Message- From: Jason Resch To: Everything List Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 12:36 am Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 12:29 AM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Does it really

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-12 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Physicist Sabine Hossenfelder also has a very nuanced view on mind and all that.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP5zGh2fui0 She indicates that there is something akin to thought, IF I understand her?  -Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: spudboy100 via Everything List Sent

Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky

2023-03-12 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Does it really display intelligent behavior, and now you will need to define intelligent behavior with testable parameters. Do humans display intelligent behavior? How often, and how consistently? Many say crows do. This was part of my reason in hectoring JC on this. A neurobiologist tells, via

Zetaflop computing

2023-03-12 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The electrical power, for some reason I never considered. Brainwashed by bits and qubits, entanglements and non-entanglements, speed and capacity of course.  https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/23/amd_zettaflop_systems_nuclear/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-09 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I have use Dem-safe news providers, but it makes no difference with you. You simply self select what is ideologically correct, and dismiss all else. Even if I dug deep and provided identical data from dem-safe sources, which is obviously something you do not wish to view, the result is the

Re: The 1st law of thermodynamics has been extended! The road to the stars lays open

2023-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
! The road to the stars lays open Press release: https://wvutoday.wvu.edu/stories/2023/02/22/wvu-physicists-give-the-first-law-of-thermodynamics-a-makeover On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 6:17 AM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: A wise idea to wait for better articles. I will see if anything

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Ahem! You are deliberately, ignoring the attack on the Trump Whitehouse in 2020.  50 Secret Service agents injured in White House riots as Donald Trump is taken to 'terror attack' bunker | The Sun Neither the Jan 6 riot, nor the June 1st 2020 riot were, The Reichstag Fire that  dems were

Re: A room temperature superconductor

2023-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The physicists have been promising room temp supercon since 1987 correct? Tell you what? If the lads or ladies in the labs had big league help from an advanced computer system, then it's a big thing. It would also mean that the science team had a fat enough budget.  Commercially, if this is

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
To respond to your points. Allow me to do technology speculation before you gut-shoot me on these. 4) You never say what you're going to do about the HUGE spike in crime that will hit 18 years after your policy is implemented Yes, this was the argument tween Paul Ehrlich-Julian Simon Wager, as

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am altering the focus here- Not on patriotism or the UK's Dr. Johnson but on Covid. Here is former investigative news journalist for CBS (former) on China and the virus motility accusation. She is no Trump-ite, so its something for all to consider.  (VIDEO) Exclusive Investigation: Separating

Re: The 1st law of thermodynamics has been extended! The road to the stars lays open

2023-03-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
A wise idea to wait for better articles. I will see if anything interesting comes our way? -Original Message- From: Henrik Ohrstrom To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2023 12:36 am Subject: Re: The 1st law of thermodynamics has been extended! The road to the stars

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-07 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I am not a conservative, but sort of a center right nationalist. My thinking about Trump simply comes from the results of his policies versus the results of Joe and the results of the Obama before him.  For me, this is why I presented an alternative to abortion which may be a successful thing?

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
thing-list@googlegroups.com Cc: johnkcl...@gmail.com; henrik.ohrst...@gmail.com Sent: Fri, Mar 3, 2023 12:32 am Subject: Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things Diseases & Pandemics  https://calluponme.blogspot.com/2020/09/diseases-pandemics.html  On 03-Mar-2023, at 6:41 AM,

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, it was the only way to cope back in the olden days. Now if the rednecks or lazzies' somehow survived without the shots, why object? It then gets relegated to yourself puttering around your computers and you decide to install more Ram? Then oops! You sip a bit and nick your hand on the

The 1st law of thermodynamics has been extended! The road to the stars lays open

2023-03-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Really? Naw, probably not, but this should be real useful anyways. I like drama & making outlandish statements. Still, this is real good. Any inventions from this? First Law of Thermodynamics Breakthrough Could Upend a Century of Equilibrium Theory in Physics - The Debrief -- You received this

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You object to it, even though it's centuries old as you have written. Natural immunity works, and the point is how many deaths to go through till we have reached it. Nothing stops Covid apparently, not even your precious face masks.  No wonder you don't like anything other than vaccines. It goes

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-04 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Subject: Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 8:35 PM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >> Brent: Worse than that, he infects more people practically guaranteeing that >> someone will die because of his idiocy. &

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-02 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Group immunity was pushed back in 2019. The death rates were too high to sit back and relax. This was suggested in the UK early on. I am sorry that the Lancet study disagrees with your politics but I am not carrying that cross for you. Past SARS-CoV-2 infection protection against re-infection:

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-02 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Dirk, the biologists can always improve things, and Crispr-case9 seems likely to spring beyond its genetic roots to modify the outcomes of even acquired diseases. Here is hoping! -Original Message- From: Dirk Van Niekerk To: Everything List Sent: Tue, Feb 28, 2023 12:16 pm Subject:

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-02 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
: Brent Meeker To: spudboy100 via Everything List Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2023 11:03 pm Subject: Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things On 3/1/2023 11:37 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Lets just follow the science and not go against the science because we

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Lets just follow the science and not go against the science because we want people to obey the political party you endorse. Its just that simple.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; henrik.ohrst...@gmail.com Sent: Tue,

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Blaming religion and leaving the atheists as ethical is not historical fact folks. If ya don't like Stalin and Hitler as being atheists, then look only to the Kim regimes in North Korea, the Killing Fields or Cambodia, the largest human-caused deaths in history, Mao's Great Leap Forward

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Bonespurs did Operation War Speed with Faucci at his side. (that's how we got your Vaccines), Here is Fauch arguing against Bonespurs, in The Independent (UK Labor/dem).  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/fauci-trump-covid-vaccine-b1823979.html On the Boys, Joey and

Re: If the first man was Adam what was Eve's name?

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Since automated kitchens are coming the standard, would it have cooked, Adam and Even on a Log? -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2023 11:30 am Subject: If the first man was Adam what was Eve's name? This time ChatGPT was able

Re: The original Turing Test

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Turing would have been enthused to the Max. Now could he have done something to test it out?? What would Turing 1950 have concluded?  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2023 9:50 am Subject: The original Turing Test In Alan

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Briefly, dealing with someone with your personality, you guys rarely change your mind despite reasonable evidence, because you need to sort thing out to fit your personality. If you discovered God or Zork the nice-boy ruler of the galaxy, you couldn't handle it sensibly. My point was that

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-03-01 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You're projecting from the Left pov. Trump was the guy you criticized in 2018, for telling Dr. Merkel to get off Russian gas now, unless you want to be a Russian sub state. I can bring up the news articles from then! Second, it is sensible to see that the Russian invasion went on After Biden's

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-02-27 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Continuinghttps://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/natural-immunity-found-to-be-as-effective-as-covid-vaccine-3-years-after-mandates-lancet-study/ar-AA17ZOoq?ocid=entnewsntp=5efd8e4416894c25d20389711956ef7e=73 So here we have the older idea of group immunity, yes? Them that are hit by Covid

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-02-27 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I cannot challenge you on Trump and Putin. I'd be interested if true? Could Don have prevented the Putin war? The perception, I think, of Obama, and Joey, from Putin and Xi, are that of a great power in rapid decline. Us! If you arrive at any news articles concerning a "deal" with Trump and

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-02-27 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
What about Stalin re-opening the Church's? You think these boys didn't admire each other? Think again! How Adolf Hitler Began to Admire Josef Stalin | The National Interest They both hated Jews and after the war Joe planned to kill off his allotment.  Death of Joseph Stalin | History Today As a

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-02-27 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I would reply that we detect, observe, emotions, and leaving the philosophers and Solipism, behind, I say IF you hold with quantum mechanics beyond Bohr, whether its Schrodinger, or Bohm, or anyone else, than we need an observer, young Padawan, Clark. Observers and quantum mechanics, observers

Re: You were told wrong info if you were told I didn’t feel things

2023-02-27 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Was adolf an atheist? He claimd to be. Did he lie, yeah, I suspect so. Is this accurate to bundle ALL the religions together as one? No! Some religions or faiths are better at some thing than others are, mine as well. I am an American, as such look upon religions and atheism as being part of

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