Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Feb 2019, at 23:45, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 4:39:25 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > On 2/26/2019 2:02 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 2:51:39 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 2/26/2019 11:00 AM, Philip

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Feb 2019, at 19:43, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/26/2019 2:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 26 Feb 2019, at 01:04, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/25/2019 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Fictionalism does not apply to the arithmetical reality, nor to physics,

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 4:39:25 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/26/2019 2:02 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 2:51:39 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/26/2019 11:00 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/26/2019 2:02 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 2:51:39 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 2/26/2019 11:00 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 12:43:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: Right.  Truth and existence are quite different

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 2:51:39 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/26/2019 11:00 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 12:43:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> Right. Truth and existence are quite different things. >> >> Brent >> >> >> > For those

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/26/2019 11:00 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 12:43:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: Right.  Truth and existence are quite different things. Brent For those from the type theory, programming language theory, constructive mathematics (whatever that

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, February 26, 2019 at 12:43:49 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > Right. Truth and existence are quite different things. > > Brent > > > For those from the type theory, programming language theory, constructive mathematics (whatever that clumping of schools is called): Truth and

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/26/2019 2:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Feb 2019, at 01:04, Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/25/2019 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Fictionalism does not apply to the arithmetical reality, nor to physics, but to the naïve idea of a “physical universe” as being the fundamental reality.

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 26 Feb 2019, at 01:04, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/25/2019 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Fictionalism does not apply to the arithmetical reality, nor to physics, but >> to the naïve idea of a “physical universe” as being the fundamental reality. >> The theology of the

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 6:04:28 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/25/2019 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > Fictionalism does not apply to the arithmetical reality, nor to > > physics, but to the naïve idea of a “physical universe” as being the > > fundamental reality. The theology

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-25 Thread Brent Meeker
On 2/25/2019 8:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Fictionalism does not apply to the arithmetical reality, nor to physics, but to the naïve idea of a “physical universe” as being the fundamental reality. The theology of the universal machine is a priori quite non Aristotelian: there is no Creator,

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 25 Feb 2019, at 11:52, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 3:34:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 22 Feb 2019, at 18:44, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> Some accept the possibility that there can be something that is immaterial. > > Yes. We call them

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-25 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 3:34:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 22 Feb 2019, at 18:44, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > Some accept the possibility that there can be something that is immaterial. > > > Yes. We call them “mathematician”. > > Bruno > > > This recent thesis I came

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 22 Feb 2019, at 18:44, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:57:49 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 21 Feb 2019, at 20:26, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:23:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 18 Feb

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-22 Thread Philip Thrift
On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:57:49 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 21 Feb 2019, at 20:26, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:23:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 18 Feb 2019, at 20:18, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> On Monday, February 18,

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 21 Feb 2019, at 20:26, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:23:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 18 Feb 2019, at 20:18, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-21 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:23:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 18 Feb 2019, at 20:18, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/0SIiavzPI84/jUkaOlUdAwAJ > This is

Re: Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 18 Feb 2019, at 20:18, Philip Thrift wrote: > > On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/0SIiavzPI84/jUkaOlUdAwAJ > This is the link to the reply in the topic "When Did Consciousness Begin?" As > I have

Modal logic, consciousness, and matter

2019-02-18 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:14:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/0SIiavzPI84/jUkaOlUdAwAJ This is the link to the reply in the topic "When Did Consciousness Begin?" As I have said before, the modal logic and numerical semantics written