You could simply point to Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem which kind of mandates that not everything in a universe is explicable from *within* that universe. This is not to give up on explanation. This *is* the explanation. It is neither good nor bad as an explanation - but it does require an 'act of faith'. As Bruno Marchal says, there are realities we can never prove, merely bet on. These things tend to end up being classified as 'religion' but, bless me, that's the value of religion! It allows us to have a point of view on things we can never prove in this life. Doesn't have to be organised, public religion - PERSONAL religion is the only authentic religion. Religion is simply what you happen to *believe*. David clearly adheres to a religion of Optimism as he calls it. That's fine; I admire this gigantic optimism of his and Popper's, it's very inspiring and will yet give birth to a great many new insights and discoveries. Just occasionally, one's personal religion does something positive for the world like that. Organised religion isn't really religion after all - it's a club with rules and creeds and punishments if you fall foul of the regulations. That's politics.
"Yoga is the science of the East and Science is the Yoga of the West" - Someone or Other. Kim Jones On 02/10/2011, at 8:37 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > In David Deutsch's Beginning of Infinity chapter 8, he criticises > Schmidhuber's Great Programmer idea by saying that it is giving up on > explanation in science, as the hardware on which the "Great Program" > runs is unknowable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Fabric of Alternate Reality" group. To post to this group, send email to f...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to foar+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/foar?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.