Re: [offtopic] Re: subjective reality
Le 19-août-05, à 20:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : No harm done. I think I understand your comment and I fully agree that I sound like I am bluffing. To say the less ... :-) But I still have hope that Bruno will come to his senses Well thanks Godfrey. I also hope I will come to my senses. Actually I hope I am in my senses. And I hope you are in your senses too, or, if not, that you will come to your senses, too. and accept my bargain (which is much less risky than the one his Doctor proposes, by the way!) Yes but some will think that accepting an artificial part of the brain is much less risky when the alternative is dying and suffering quasi-surely the next month. Technology has already invaded the brain. Comp is already practiced. I show that comp is falsifiable. You pretend that the YD is already false! I can understand Quentin's impatience. I know already you can't be serious, because you pretend talking about something I would not have anticipated, but you acknowledge not having the need to read what I wrote (!?). And at the same time you are saying something very big. To refute YD you need to show that there are no level of description of ourselves capable of being Turing-emulable. You would refute my reasoning at step 0! Go ahead. You are the first one who tries this. In general people try at least at step 3! (I follow the numbering (8 steps) of the Universal Dovetailer Argument like in this pdf slides: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004Slide.pdf Explanations are in the SANE paper: http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/ SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html) Oh I see you have another post still without your argument! I will answer it quickly because I indulge your little diversions but it is probably a weakness of my part. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
[offtopic] Re: subjective reality
Dear, Le Vendredi 19 Août 2005 18:27, vous avez écrit : Dear Quentin, Je m'excuse. It is not my intension to insult anyone least of all you since I don't quite remember having directed any message to you personally! No, none directed to me... I don't know if it's my poor comprehension of english... but anyway I don't really like when people just want to show by acting as if they knew the real knowledge... I apologize for feeling it like that... But as it was not your intention. I would feel shame to ask you to unsubscribe, it wasn't at all my intention, just let the discussion stay sane (with a message like mine, I understand it 's not the better way for it to stay sane ;). Quentin
Re: [offtopic] Re: subjective reality
Hi Quentin, No harm done. I think I understand your comment and I fully agree that I sound like I am bluffing. But I still have hope that Bruno will come to his senses and accept my bargain (which is much less risky than the one his Doctor proposes, by the way!) I take it that French is your native language from your reply header. Godfrey Kurtz (New Brunswick, NJ) -Original Message- From: Quentin Anciaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; everything-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:48:48 +0200 Subject: [offtopic] Re: subjective reality Dear, Le Vendredi 19 Août 2005 18:27, vous avez écrit : Dear Quentin, Je m'excuse. It is not my intension to insult anyone least of all you since I don't quite remember having directed any message to you personally! No, none directed to me... I don't know if it's my poor comprehension of english... but anyway I don't really like when people just want to show by acting as if they knew the real knowledge... I apologize for feeling it like that... But as it was not your intention. I would feel shame to ask you to unsubscribe, it wasn't at all my intention, just let the discussion stay sane (with a message like mine, I understand it 's not the better way for it to stay sane ;). Quentin Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
