Re: Causation, Indexical facts Self-sampling

1999-04-16 Thread Jacques M Mallah

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Nick Bostrom wrote:
 The Self-Sampling Assumption (SSA), the idea that you should reason 
 as if you were a random sample form the set of all observers, 
 underlies many of the discussions we have had on this list. About 
 half a year ago I discovered some paradoxical consequences of this 
 assumption. It seems to imply that weird backwards causation and 
 psychokinesis(!) is feasible in our world. In this small paper I 
 describe these possible counterexamples and discuss whether they 
 really are as paradoxical as they appear at first blush:
 http://www.anthropic-principle.com/preprints/cau/causation.doc

There may actually be an interesting issue related to this.
It's not surprising that the Copernican principle (or SSA as you
call it) fails to be useful when the observer, like Adam, just happens to
be in an atypical position.  It remains true that it will work for most
observers and that one should use it; even Adam.
The interesting thing is that if Adam believed in the MWI, he
could calculate (roughly) the distribution of observers, and then he would
realize that the effective probability of him seeing himself have a child,
and therefore of any correlated coin flips or deer crossings, was the same
as a third party observer would calculate.

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Causation, Indexical facts Self-sampling

1999-04-13 Thread Nick Bostrom

The Self-Sampling Assumption (SSA), the idea that you should reason 
as if you were a random sample form the set of all observers, 
underlies many of the discussions we have had on this list. About 
half a year ago I discovered some paradoxical consequences of this 
assumption. It seems to imply that weird backwards causation and 
psychokinesis(!) is feasible in our world. In this small paper I 
describe these possible counterexamples and discuss whether they 
really are as paradoxical as they appear at first blush:

http://www.anthropic-principle.com/preprints/cau/causation.doc

Comments?


Nick Bostrom
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Department of Philosophy, Logic and Scientific Method
London School of Economics