Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[mickey . beergate]

On Friday, October 3, 2014 12:20:14 AM UTC+1, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, LizR > 
> wrote:
>
>> On 2 October 2014 16:59, Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, LizR > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to 
 anyone with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but 
 they creep in all too easily...)

>>>
>>> Which is of course another generalization :-)
>>>
>>
>> Of course, but not a facile one.
>>  
>>
>
> My generalizations are always facile because of my certified obtuseness 
> ("slow and too thick upstairs to think or type straight"-sense).
>
> As for the rest of the heroes in this thread: politics is all your fault 
> (yes: yours, you.) for buying culture, no matter which side, or what 
> historical trivial pursuit nonsense points, which nuances of vocabulary, or 
> what funny hats/robes they wear or not... that that culture is something to 
> take literally/seriously. All of us are at fault. I hereby formally insult 
> everybody, except babies, spiders, teapots, and ferns.
>
> Establishing that, at least Maher has the sense to advocate pot (he should 
> follow his advice a little, sure...), which when I see the passion with 
> which bullshit cultural blood encrusted constructions are defended/attacked 
> here and on the news... 
>
> is, along with the opportunity to work and live in peace without being 
> effed over, the only plausible way out of this school where overzealous 
> joyless wise ass righteous power hungry priest lawyer politician scientist 
> nerd children are running around, armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons 
> and the like, convinced with mad certainty that they are running the show 
> in the only way it can be run.
>
> But no... You couldn't let this be and just quietly self-medicate. You had 
> to shoot for truth and are surprised by the blood, cost of ammunition, and 
> ruins. You went so far, you guys even woke the spud, and Alberto kissing 
> butt for eloquent silences, and soon Steven's CV will be up again. Honk 
> away all you want. 
>
> You conjured this up, so now we have to deal with it. And with "we", I 
> mean erm... probably not me. Mainstream platitudes are such a mainstream 
> platitude. Better than tributary platitudes though. How about mainstream 
> profundities? Ye cultural whores...PGCoward
>

actually it was  you. You were doing that internal trying to discover me 
thing. So sweet!  

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Platonist Guitar Cowboy]

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:59 AM, LizR  wrote:

> At least you grasp all this stuff. I can't even be wrong with authority.
>

 I don't grasp it. But that is why it is fun to rant when appropriate,
especially when it feels like the same tired old cultural songs.

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[LizR]

At least you grasp all this stuff. I can't even be wrong with authority.

On 3 October 2014 12:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:47 AM, LizR  wrote:
>
>> On 3 October 2014 12:45, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
>> multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:39 AM, LizR  wrote:
>>>
 Have I said something that's upset you?

>>>
>>> No, I'm just jealous because my generalizations are generally facile.
>>> PolemicGuitarCoward
>>>
>>
>> That one wasn't.
>>
>
> I'm not consistent, so no worries.
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Platonist Guitar Cowboy]

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:47 AM, LizR  wrote:

> On 3 October 2014 12:45, Platonist Guitar Cowboy  > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:39 AM, LizR  wrote:
>>
>>> Have I said something that's upset you?
>>>
>>
>> No, I'm just jealous because my generalizations are generally facile.
>> PolemicGuitarCoward
>>
>
> That one wasn't.
>

I'm not consistent, so no worries.

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[LizR]

On 3 October 2014 12:45, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:39 AM, LizR  wrote:
>
>> Have I said something that's upset you?
>>
>
> No, I'm just jealous because my generalizations are generally facile.
> PolemicGuitarCoward
>

That one wasn't.

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Platonist Guitar Cowboy]

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:39 AM, LizR  wrote:

> Have I said something that's upset you?
>

No, I'm just jealous because my generalizations are generally facile.
PolemicGuitarCoward

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[LizR]

Have I said something that's upset you?

On 3 October 2014 12:20, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, LizR  wrote:
>
>> On 2 October 2014 16:59, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
>> multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, LizR  wrote:
>>>
 Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to
 anyone with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but
 they creep in all too easily...)

>>>
>>> Which is of course another generalization :-)
>>>
>>
>> Of course, but not a facile one.
>>
>>
>
> My generalizations are always facile because of my certified obtuseness
> ("slow and too thick upstairs to think or type straight"-sense).
>
> As for the rest of the heroes in this thread: politics is all your fault
> (yes: yours, you.) for buying culture, no matter which side, or what
> historical trivial pursuit nonsense points, which nuances of vocabulary, or
> what funny hats/robes they wear or not... that that culture is something to
> take literally/seriously. All of us are at fault. I hereby formally insult
> everybody, except babies, spiders, teapots, and ferns.
>
> Establishing that, at least Maher has the sense to advocate pot (he should
> follow his advice a little, sure...), which when I see the passion with
> which bullshit cultural blood encrusted constructions are defended/attacked
> here and on the news...
>
> is, along with the opportunity to work and live in peace without being
> effed over, the only plausible way out of this school where overzealous
> joyless wise ass righteous power hungry priest lawyer politician scientist
> nerd children are running around, armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons
> and the like, convinced with mad certainty that they are running the show
> in the only way it can be run.
>
> But no... You couldn't let this be and just quietly self-medicate. You had
> to shoot for truth and are surprised by the blood, cost of ammunition, and
> ruins. You went so far, you guys even woke the spud, and Alberto kissing
> butt for eloquent silences, and soon Steven's CV will be up again. Honk
> away all you want.
>
> You conjured this up, so now we have to deal with it. And with "we", I
> mean erm... probably not me. Mainstream platitudes are such a mainstream
> platitude. Better than tributary platitudes though. How about mainstream
> profundities? Ye cultural whores...PGCoward
>
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Platonist Guitar Cowboy]

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:14 PM, LizR  wrote:

> On 2 October 2014 16:59, Platonist Guitar Cowboy  > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, LizR  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone
>>> with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they
>>> creep in all too easily...)
>>>
>>
>> Which is of course another generalization :-)
>>
>
> Of course, but not a facile one.
>
>

My generalizations are always facile because of my certified obtuseness
("slow and too thick upstairs to think or type straight"-sense).

As for the rest of the heroes in this thread: politics is all your fault
(yes: yours, you.) for buying culture, no matter which side, or what
historical trivial pursuit nonsense points, which nuances of vocabulary, or
what funny hats/robes they wear or not... that that culture is something to
take literally/seriously. All of us are at fault. I hereby formally insult
everybody, except babies, spiders, teapots, and ferns.

Establishing that, at least Maher has the sense to advocate pot (he should
follow his advice a little, sure...), which when I see the passion with
which bullshit cultural blood encrusted constructions are defended/attacked
here and on the news...

is, along with the opportunity to work and live in peace without being
effed over, the only plausible way out of this school where overzealous
joyless wise ass righteous power hungry priest lawyer politician scientist
nerd children are running around, armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons
and the like, convinced with mad certainty that they are running the show
in the only way it can be run.

But no... You couldn't let this be and just quietly self-medicate. You had
to shoot for truth and are surprised by the blood, cost of ammunition, and
ruins. You went so far, you guys even woke the spud, and Alberto kissing
butt for eloquent silences, and soon Steven's CV will be up again. Honk
away all you want.

You conjured this up, so now we have to deal with it. And with "we", I mean
erm... probably not me. Mainstream platitudes are such a mainstream
platitude. Better than tributary platitudes though. How about mainstream
profundities? Ye cultural whores...PGCoward

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

['Chris de Morsella' via Everything List]

 From: Alberto G. Corona 
 


I don´t know what you mean Chris, but coming from you, a true believer of the 
power of the Sun and the Mother Heart, the most ancient religion, that curses 
with human sacrifices, it must be something very important. 

My dear Alberto, you have assigned me a religion! I will need to go investigate 
this "faith" you have just most magnanimously bestowed on me. 

Has anyone ever called you a sanctimonious idiot... well there is always a 
first, but I suspect I have a long line of predecessors who have graced you 
with that moniker.

Enjoy... it fits you so well!



2014-10-03 0:00 GMT+02:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
:



The moral sanctimony of true believers speaking past other true believers -- 
who do not believe as they do -- is something to behold!
>
>
>It would all be so comical, except for the tendency of most true believers to 
>sanction unbelievable violence in the name of what they know to be right 
>and feel all righteous in themselves for doing the work of God (or Allah... or 
>whatever they call their deity). When true believers go to that place, get 
>ready for a rapid descent into the macabre recesses of the human condition.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Alberto G. Corona 
>To: everything-list  
>Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:43 PM
>Subject: Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam
> 
>
>
>By the way, God bless you and I hope that one day you will wash your rage in 
>the love of Christ.
>
>
>2014-10-02 23:40 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
>Thanks Samiya for your eloquent silence.
>>
>>Anyway, I will not make generalizations about muslims. Many of them do not 
>>deserve what many others are doing.
>>
>>
>>For example this one:
>>
>>
>>http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/iraq-irak-irak-35380/
>>
>>
>>
>>It probably will receive soon the honors of a martyr by the catholic Church. 
>>Not by killing, like yours, but by being killed trying to avoid more kills
>>
>>
>>By the way, the more violent you are against christians, the more muslims 
>>converted to Christianity in the muslim word. Never in the history there have 
>>been more conversions.
>>
>>
>>Don't assimilate westerners with christians. most of then are not. They are 
>>apostates. These arab christians, ex-muslims are the true ones.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>2014-10-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>>
>>Hi Samiya. I´m curious:
>>>
>>>If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and 
>>>cellebrate the methods of ISIS...Tell us.
>>>
>>>
>>>2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>>>
>>>The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the questions 
>>>raised on this forum about Islam. 
>>>>Samiya 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-- Forwarded message --
>>>>
>>>>Subject: generalizations_of_islam
>>>>Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Good segment
>>>> 
>>>>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>Alberto. 
>>
>>
>>
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Alberto G. Corona]

I don´t know what you mean Chris, but coming from you, a true believer of
the power of the Sun and the Mother Heart, the most ancient religion, that
curses with human sacrifices, it must be something very important.

2014-10-03 0:00 GMT+02:00 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com>:

> The moral sanctimony of true believers speaking past other true believers
> -- who do not believe as they do -- is something to behold!
>
> It would all be so comical, except for the tendency of most true believers
> to sanction unbelievable violence in the name of what they know to be
> right and feel all righteous in themselves for doing the work of God
> (or Allah... or whatever they call their deity). When true believers go to
> that place, get ready for a rapid descent into the macabre recesses of the
> human condition.
>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Alberto G. Corona 
> *To:* everything-list 
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:43 PM
> *Subject:* Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam
>
> By the way, God bless you and I hope that one day you will wash your rage
> in the love of Christ.
>
> 2014-10-02 23:40 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
> Thanks Samiya for your eloquent silence.
>
> Anyway, I will not make generalizations about muslims. Many of them do not
> deserve what many others are doing.
>
> For example this one:
>
>
> http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/iraq-irak-irak-35380/
>
> It probably will receive soon the honors of a martyr by the catholic
> Church. Not by killing, like yours, but by being killed trying to avoid
> more kills
>
> By the way, the more violent you are against christians, the more muslims
> converted to Christianity in the muslim word. Never in the history there
> have been more conversions.
>
> Don't assimilate westerners with christians. most of then are not. They
> are apostates. These arab christians, ex-muslims are the true ones.
>
>
> 2014-10-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
> Hi Samiya. I´m curious:
>
> If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and
> cellebrate the methods of ISIS...Tell us.
>
> 2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>
> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
> Samiya
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Subject: generalizations_of_islam
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>
>
> Good segment
>
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html
>
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

['Chris de Morsella' via Everything List]

The moral sanctimony of true believers speaking past other true believers -- 
who do not believe as they do -- is something to behold!

It would all be so comical, except for the tendency of most true believers to 
sanction unbelievable violence in the name of what they know to be right 
and feel all righteous in themselves for doing the work of God (or Allah... or 
whatever they call their deity). When true believers go to that place, get 
ready for a rapid descent into the macabre recesses of the human condition.





 From: Alberto G. Corona 
To: everything-list  
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam
 


By the way, God bless you and I hope that one day you will wash your rage in 
the love of Christ.


2014-10-02 23:40 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :

Thanks Samiya for your eloquent silence.
>
>Anyway, I will not make generalizations about muslims. Many of them do not 
>deserve what many others are doing.
>
>
>For example this one:
>
>
>http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/iraq-irak-irak-35380/
>
>
>
>It probably will receive soon the honors of a martyr by the catholic Church. 
>Not by killing, like yours, but by being killed trying to avoid more kills
>
>
>By the way, the more violent you are against christians, the more muslims 
>converted to Christianity in the muslim word. Never in the history there have 
>been more conversions.
>
>
>Don't assimilate westerners with christians. most of then are not. They are 
>apostates. These arab christians, ex-muslims are the true ones.
>
>
>
>
>2014-10-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
>Hi Samiya. I´m curious:
>>
>>If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and cellebrate 
>>the methods of ISIS...Tell us.
>>
>>
>>2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>>
>>The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the questions 
>>raised on this forum about Islam. 
>>>Samiya 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- Forwarded message --
>>>
>>>Subject: generalizations_of_islam
>>>Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>Good segment
>>> 
>>>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html
>>>
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>
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Alberto G. Corona]

By the way, God bless you and I hope that one day you will wash your rage
in the love of Christ.

2014-10-02 23:40 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :

> Thanks Samiya for your eloquent silence.
>
> Anyway, I will not make generalizations about muslims. Many of them do not
> deserve what many others are doing.
>
> For example this one:
>
>
> http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/iraq-irak-irak-35380/
>
> It probably will receive soon the honors of a martyr by the catholic
> Church. Not by killing, like yours, but by being killed trying to avoid
> more kills
>
> By the way, the more violent you are against christians, the more muslims
> converted to Christianity in the muslim word. Never in the history there
> have been more conversions.
>
> Don't assimilate westerners with christians. most of then are not. They
> are apostates. These arab christians, ex-muslims are the true ones.
>
>
> 2014-10-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :
>
>> Hi Samiya. I´m curious:
>>
>> If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and
>> cellebrate the methods of ISIS...Tell us.
>>
>> 2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>>
>>> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
>>> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
>>> Samiya
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> Subject: generalizations_of_islam
>>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>>>
>>>
>>> Good segment
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Alberto G. Corona]

Thanks Samiya for your eloquent silence.

Anyway, I will not make generalizations about muslims. Many of them do not
deserve what many others are doing.

For example this one:

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/world-news/detail/articolo/iraq-irak-irak-35380/

It probably will receive soon the honors of a martyr by the catholic
Church. Not by killing, like yours, but by being killed trying to avoid
more kills

By the way, the more violent you are against christians, the more muslims
converted to Christianity in the muslim word. Never in the history there
have been more conversions.

Don't assimilate westerners with christians. most of then are not. They are
apostates. These arab christians, ex-muslims are the true ones.


2014-10-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :

> Hi Samiya. I´m curious:
>
> If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and
> cellebrate the methods of ISIS...Tell us.
>
> 2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>
>> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
>> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
>> Samiya
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> Subject: generalizations_of_islam
>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>>
>>
>> Good segment
>>
>>
>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[LizR]

On 2 October 2014 16:59, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, LizR  wrote:
>
>> Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone
>> with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they
>> creep in all too easily...)
>>
>
> Which is of course another generalization :-)
>

Of course, but not a facile one.

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

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11S I mean

2014-10-02 12:29 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona :

> Hi Samiya. I´m curious:
>
> If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and
> cellebrate the methods of ISIS...Tell us.
>
> 2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :
>
>> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
>> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
>> Samiya
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> Subject: generalizations_of_islam
>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>>
>>
>> Good segment
>>
>>
>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Alberto G. Corona]

Hi Samiya. I´m curious:

If you applauded the attacks of 11M I suppose that you applaud and
cellebrate the methods of ISIS...Tell us.

2014-10-02 4:56 GMT+02:00 Samiya Illias :

> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
> Samiya
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Subject: generalizations_of_islam
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>
>
> Good segment
>
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

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On 10/1/2014 8:31 PM, LizR wrote:
Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone with a few 
brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they creep in all too easily...)


But also facile distinctions are made:

/ASLAN: Stoning and mutilation and those barbaric practices should be condemned and 
criticized by everyone. The actions of individuals and societies and countries like Iran, 
like Pakistan, like Saudi Arabia must be condemned, because they don't belong in the 21st 
century.//

//
//But to say Muslim countries, as though Pakistan and Turkey are the same, as though 
Indonesia and Saudi Arabia are the same, as though somehow what is happening in the most 
extreme forms of these repressive countries, these autocratic countries, is representative 
of what's happening in every other Muslim country, is, frankly -- and I use this word 
seriously -- stupid. So let's stop doing that. /



Turkey is different precisely because Kemal Ataturk made separation of church and state a 
foundation of Turkey - something directly contrary to the Quran which mandates theocracy.  
So it is not as though the differences are between Pakistan and Turkey or Saudi Arabia and 
Indonesia are unrelated to religion.  The difference are that the more barabaric nations 
are the more religious.


Brent


On 2 October 2014 15:56, Samiya Illias > wrote:


The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the questions 
raised
on this forum about Islam.
Samiya


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Subject: generalizations_of_islam
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400


Good segment


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/reza_aslan_mahers_facile_generalizations_of_islam_the_definition_of_bigotry.html

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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, LizR  wrote:

> Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone
> with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they
> creep in all too easily...)
>

Which is of course another generalization :-)

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Bloody winds of recursion. PGC


>
> On 2 October 2014 15:56, Samiya Illias  wrote:
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>> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
>> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
>> Samiya
>>
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
>>
>>
>> Good segment
>>
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Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[LizR]

Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone
with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they
creep in all too easily...)

On 2 October 2014 15:56, Samiya Illias  wrote:

> The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the
> questions raised on this forum about Islam.
> Samiya
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> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400
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> Good segment
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Fwd: FW: generalizations_of_islam

[Samiya Illias]

The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the questions
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Samiya


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Good segment

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