The new and improved LIGO detector has already found something
interesting. It's too recent to have been mentioned in the article but
yesterday my phone gave me an alert that exactly 17.8 seconds after 10:38PM
Eastern time LIGO detected something which they preliminarily gave a 72%
probability
And now LIGO is much more sensitive so it will be able to detect about 10
times more Black Hole mergers than it was capable of doing back in 2015
when it detected its first Black Hole collision.
Gravitational wave detector LIGO is back online
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, requires a LIGO or LISA capable of detecting changes in metric with BMS
symmetries. I read a report on how LIGO detectors are being deformed
slightly in permanent ways
On Wednesday Ligo/Virgo released a more detailed analysis of the first half
of its third observational run which went from April 1 2019 to October 1
2019 which added 39 additional gravitational wave events bringing the total
number seen up to 50. The list includes the most powerful Black Hole
To be honest I have found the preponderance of black holes in the 30 to 60
solar mass range to be odd. It would take a really large star to generate a
black hole that massive. These would be red supergiant stars or stars such
as the Pistol star. These are one in a many thousands of stars.
In today's issue of Physical Review Letters the two Lego detectors in the
US and the Virgo detector in Italy announced they had detected on May 21
2019 the gravitational waves from the merger of two Black Holes of 65 and
85 Solar masses which produced a Black Hole of 142 solar masses with 8
solar
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 6:32:45 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> Puzzling signals seen by LIGO may be gravitational wave split in two
> <https://www.newscientist.com/article/2214685-puzzling-signals-seen-by-ligo-may-be-gravitational-wave-split-in-two/>
>
> John K Clark
Puzzling signals seen by LIGO may be gravitational wave split in two
<https://www.newscientist.com/article/2214685-puzzling-signals-seen-by-ligo-may-be-gravitational-wave-split-in-two/>
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On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 5:53:04 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> Yesterday on August 28 2019 LIGO detected 2 Gravitational wave events just
> 21 minutes apart, the first at 6:34:05 UTC and the second at 6:55:09 UTC,
> the events were at the same distance, 6.4 billion
Yesterday on August 28 2019 LIGO detected 2 Gravitational wave events just
21 minutes apart, the first at 6:34:05 UTC and the second at 6:55:09 UTC,
the events were at the same distance, 6.4 billion light years, and they
were in the same general part of the sky. The events were seen in all 3
On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 7:33:01 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
>
> LIGO has only been back on for a few days but already they have detected a
> new gravitational wave from a Black Hole merger slightly under 5 billion
> light years away. They've decided to stop most of the secrec
LIGO has only been back on for a few days but already they have detected a
new gravitational wave from a Black Hole merger slightly under 5 billion
light years away. They've decided to stop most of the secrecy and report
things as soon as they find them, so they haven't finished calculating how
LIGO and Virgo gravitational wave detectors are back online
<https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ligo-and-virgo-gravitational-wave-detectors-are-back>
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On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 7:01 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
*> I am going to think about this. The problem I see is that LIGO detects
> information in a gravity wave and converts that into our electronic
> information. If this information real
I am going to think about this. The problem I see is that LIGO detects
information in a gravity wave and converts that into our electronic
information. If this information really drops as 1/r then from a Gauss' law
perspective it means a gravitational wave propagating from its source
produces
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 5:06 PM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes but LIGO detects the peak to peak displacement of a wave not its
>> power or energy as cameras and radios do. And that means LIGO's ability to
>> detect wave pro
nt is produced.
>>
>
> A radio receiver detects the power in a AC circuit, and that is the Root
> Mean Square voltage times the Root Mean Square current. Unlike LIGO
> radios don't detect peak to peak values.
>
> > A gravitational wave is measured according to strain
er in a AC circuit, and that is the Root
Mean Square voltage times the Root Mean Square current. Unlike LIGO radios
don't detect peak to peak values.
> A gravitational wave is measured according to strain, but a strain
> through distance has an energy content as well.
>
Yes but LIGO detects th
re 2 differences:
>
> 1) Our ability to detect electromagnetic waves decreases with the square
> of the distance, but LIGO's ability to detect gravitational waves only
> decreases linearly with distance because unlike film or CCD cameras LIGO
> does not detect the energy in the wa
ic waves decreases with the square of
the distance, but LIGO's ability to detect gravitational waves only
decreases linearly with distance because unlike film or CCD cameras LIGO
does not detect the energy in the wave it detects the displacement the wave
produces.
2) It's easy for telescopes to deter
On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 6:36:24 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
>
> Unless there is some last second glitch the 2 LIGO gravitational wave
> detectors in the USA and the Virgo detector in Italy will go back online on
> Monday. The 2 LIGO detectors will be about 40% more sensiti
Unless there is some last second glitch the 2 LIGO gravitational wave
detectors in the USA and the Virgo detector in Italy will go back online on
Monday. The 2 LIGO detectors will be about 40% more sensitive now after the
upgrade and the slightly smaller Virgo detector about 50% better
LIGO should get back online and start detecting gravitational waves again
in about a month after being upgraded, and now they're talking about the
upgrades that will come after that. By 2022 they expect to be able to
detect one Black Hole merger a month and by 2025 one per hour. The quality
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LIGO announced they've detected another Black Hole merger. On June 7 2017
Black Holes of 7 and 12 solar masses collided producing a 18 solar mass
Black Hole and a solar mass of energy in the form of Gravitational Waves.
It happened a billion years ago and these are the smallest Black Holes
Some theories challenge Einstein and say Gravity moves slightly slower than
light (or Gamma rays), if the Gamma Ray Flash and the LIGO/VIRGO gravity
event observed a few days ago really are correlated then we should be able
to measure any potential difference between these 2 speeds with enormous
There is a rumor that LIGO has found another gravitational wave event, but
what's new is that this time they've matched it up with something that
optical telescopes can see. If true that almost certainly was caused by
merging Neutron Stars not merging Black Holes. It all started when
astronomer J
On January 4 2017 LIGO detected a third Black Hole merger and the most
distant one yet, 2.9 billion light years. A 31.2 solar mass Black Hole
collided with a 19.4 solar mass Black Hole resulting in a 48.7 solar mass
Black Hole with 2 solar masses converted into gravitational wave energy.
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Subject: Has LIGO found new physics?
On December 9 a paper was published hinting that maybe just maybe the LIGO
Gravitational Wave detector has found evidence for new physics, the first eve
On December 9 a paper was published hinting that maybe just maybe the
LIGO Gravitational Wave detector has found evidence for new physics, the
first ever departure from General Relativity:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1612.00266.pdf
String theory says, well...,some string theories say,
a Black Hole
A new analysis in the journal Nature by Krzysztof Belczynski predicts that
when LIGO reaches full sensitivity in 3 to 4 years it will see Black Hole
mergers in the 20 to 80 solal mass range about once every 9 hours ,
assuming the Black Holes came from dead stars and not from the first
nanosecond
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There are a few problems though: Keeping the anti-matter isolated from
all matter, e.g. in a magnetic bottle. Making the anti-matter; a
process whose ER
time because being
smaller the holes generated waves with higher frequencies that LIGO is more
sensitive to.
And they're looking at at least one other suspected merger but they're only 85%
certain it's real and that's not good enough to claim discovery, but there may
be others so there ma
, so unlike the first detection
>>>> this time we can say with certainty that at least one of the Black Holes
>>>> was spinning. And although weaker the signal lasted longer, almost a full
>>>> second versus a fifth of a second the first time
second versus a fifth of a second the first time because being
smaller the holes generated waves with higher frequencies that LIGO is more
sensitive to.
And they're looking at at least one other suspected merger but they're only 85%
certain it's real and that's not good enough to claim dis
determine the spin, so unlike the first detection this time we can say
>> with certainty that at least one of the Black Holes was spinning. And
>> although weaker the signal lasted longer, almost a full second versus a
>> fifth of a second the first time because being smaller the h
say
with certainty that at least one of the Black Holes was spinning. And
although weaker the signal lasted longer, almost a full second versus
a fifth of a second the first time because being smaller the holes
generated waves with higher frequencies that LIGO is more sensitive to.
And they're
of a second the first time because being smaller the holes generated
waves with higher frequencies that LIGO is more sensitive to.
And they're looking at at least one other suspected merger but they're only
85% certain it's real and that's not good enough to claim discovery, but
there may be others so
Energy, John Mikes, is just a measure of change in a physical system with time.
Or change in arrangements of spacetime in the time direction. And what is mass?
It's just changes in spacetime in the space direction(s). And it turns out each
can be rotated to become the other. What is spacetime?
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> When I think of energy, I think of movement, or flow.
That's one form of energy, and the amount of energy depends on the mass of
the moving object and its velocity but it turns out that of
s life can be aggravating, enough.
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uot;matter in motion." Anyone have a better definition? "It takes energy.."
> >
> >
> >
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> motion." Anyone have a better definition? "It takes energy.."
>
>
>
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It takes energy.."
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Great, but what is the specific way in which mass is con
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 9:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> You know, I have never heard a decent definition of what energy is? I
> learnt in grade school was that energy was the ability to do work.
You need energy to do work but you can
On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Terren Suydam
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> Sure, but John said the black holes lost 3 solar masses, which was
> converted into gravitational waves... how? Fusion and fission are easy
> examples of mass to energy conversion - so what's the specific
Great, but what is the specific way in which mass is converted into the
energy required to produce gravitational waves? When planetary orbits
decay, kinetic energy is lost... No mass is converted.
On Feb 13, 2016 1:20 PM, "John Clark" wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 1:00
Ahhh, makes sense, you know, in the absurd way that anything in relativity
or QM makes sense.
One more question. A mass is hurtling through space (not in orbit, to keep
things simple). In the mass's frame of reference it has zero kinetic
energy. It is at rest. From the perspective of a nearby
On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 11:11:05PM -0500, Terren Suydam wrote:
> Ahhh, makes sense, you know, in the absurd way that anything in relativity
> or QM makes sense.
>
> One more question. A mass is hurtling through space (not in orbit, to keep
> things simple). In the mass's frame of reference it has
Depends on what you mean by "its mass". As used in particle physics,
that phrase always refers to the particles rest-mass, which is an
invariant (the same in any coordinate frame). But if you think of "its
mass" as referring to the strength of the body's gravitational field,
then yes its
On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 09:47:11PM -0500, Terren Suydam wrote:
> Great, but what is the specific way in which mass is converted into the
> energy required to produce gravitational waves? When planetary orbits
> decay, kinetic energy is lost... No mass is converted.
Kinetic energy has mass! When
In relativity mass and energy are interchangeable. For example, most of
the mass of a proton is in the kinetic energy of the quarks. When a
planetary orbit decays (by radiating gravity waves) kinetic energy is
lost and this shows up as less gravitational mass for the sun/planet
system. So
a 29 solar mass black hole and producing a 62 solar mass black
> hole with the missing 3 solar masses being converted into energy in the
> form of gravitational waves, which is what LIGO saw. It all happened in a
> fifth of a second. If 3 solar masses had been converted to light instead o
Thanks John, interesting. Does current theory make any predictions on how
much energy (electro-magnetic and otherwise) actually is produced during
ring-down, despite the inability to observe it due to the event horizon?
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:37 AM, John Clark wrote:
>
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Terren Suydam
wrote:
>
> I thought the gravitational waves were generated as the black holes
> rotated around one another, not (merely) as a consequence of the collision.
> Also, what kinds of interactions transfer the energy/mass of
there in the dark.
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The LIGO detects gravitational waves - even from events
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Terren Suydam
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> If you were in one of the galaxies involved with the colliding black
> holes, would you be close enough to the gravitational waves to feel them on
> any kind of macroscopic level such as the one we inhabit?
>
they were we wouldn't have been able to detect it. What we
detected was a 36 solar mass black hole merging with
a 29 solar mass black hole and producing a 62 solar mass
black hole with the missing 3 solar masses being converted
into energy in the form of gravitatio
were not contained within the event horizon, if they were we wouldn't have
>> been able to detect it. What we detected was a 36 solar mass black hole
>> merging with a 29 solar mass black hole and producing a 62 solar mass black
>> hole with the missing 3 solar masses being con
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Terren Suydam
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>
> Thanks John, interesting. Does current theory make any predictions on how
> much energy (electro-magnetic and otherwise) actually is produced during
> ring-down, despite the inability to observe it due to the
If you were in one of the galaxies involved with the colliding black holes,
would you be close enough to the gravitational waves to feel them on any
kind of macroscopic level such as the one we inhabit?
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:12 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, Feb 12,
and a
quarter billion light years away but LIGO has very poor directional
resolution.
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ss black hole merging with a 29 solar mass black
hole and producing a 62 solar mass black hole with the missing 3
solar masses being converted into energy in the form of
gravitational waves, which is what LIGO saw. It all happened in a
fifth of a second. If 3 solar masses ha
On Sept. 14 at 4am the LIGO detector in Livingston Louisiana detected a
burst of gravitational waves, 7 milliseconds later the LIGO detector in
Hanford Washington detected the same thing. The possibility of this being
due to chance is vanishingly small. What they detected was 2 black holes
we detected was a 36 solar mass black hole
merging with a 29 solar mass black hole and producing a 62 solar mass black
hole with the missing 3 solar masses being converted into energy in the
form of gravitational waves, which is what LIGO saw. It all happened in a
fifth of a second. If 3 sola
possibility that matter/energy can escape due to the high energies involved?
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>
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> Fantastic news!
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:16:57AM -0500, John Clark wrote:
> > On Sept. 14 at 4am the LIGO d
Fantastic news!
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:16:57AM -0500, John Clark wrote:
> On Sept. 14 at 4am the LIGO detector in Livingston Louisiana detected a
> burst of gravitational waves, 7 milliseconds later the LIGO detector in
> Hanford Washington detected the same thing. The po
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Fantastic news!
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:16:57AM -0500, John
The LIGO detects gravitational waves - even from events that produce no
photons.
Brent
On 2/11/2016 7:28 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
My thought is I wonder if its possible to create some kind of
gravitational wave detector that can view objects that don't produce a
lot
On Thursday at 10.30 EST (15.30GMT) the Laser Interferometer
Gravitation-Wave Observatory will announce if they've found gravitational
waves or not after its recent upgrade. Before the upgrade LIGO could detect
binary neutron star mergers 50 million light years away, after the upgrade
it could
gravitational
> > waves or not after its recent upgrade. Before the upgrade LIGO could detect
> > binary neutron star mergers 50 million light years away, after the
> > upgrade it could detect them 650 light years away, a volume over 2000 times
> > larger. The physics wor
Feb 9, 2016 at 10:57 AM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday at 10.30 EST (15.30GMT) the Laser Interferometer
> Gravitation-Wave Observatory will announce if they've found gravitational
> waves or not after its recent upgrade. Before the upgrade LIGO could detect
&
tation-Wave Observatory will announce if they've found gravitational
waves or not after its recent upgrade. Before the upgrade LIGO could detect
binary neutron star mergers 50 million light years away, after the
upgrade it could detect them 650 light years away, a volume over 2000 times
larger. The ph
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