RE: Food for thought

2015-04-21 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:48 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Food for thought On 19 Apr 2015, at 05:13, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2015

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-21 Thread John Mikes
, 2015 8:48 AM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Food for thought On 19 Apr 2015, at 05:13, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:57 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: pls. tellme: what should we call 'information'? Information is a measure

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Apr 2015, at 05:13, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:57 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: pls. tellme: what should we call 'information'? Information is a measure of surprise, and it turns out that surprise is not continuous but comes in lumps. And we understand

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-20 Thread John Mikes
*Subject:* Re: Food for thought On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/17/2015 11:56 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital information

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I think that the subjective perception of the amount of information can e done mathemaically in the future. Some speculations: This subjective value can be made objective if we add the subject state to the equation. Two different subjects perceive different quantities of information is because

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
@googlegroups.com wrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Telmo Menezes *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 12:22 AM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Food for thought On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from the dawn of humans through the current century. It has been estimated that by 2020, the size of the world’s digital universe will be close to

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread LizR
I'm not sure there's too much more information generated in the receiver sitting looking at images and text as opposed to going outside and meeting people, admiring the view, etc. Obviously there's *some* more, especially since we've discovered a lot in recent centuries (and decades) - but how

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Of *Telmo Menezes *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 12:22 AM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Food for thought On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/17/2015 11:56 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Current global

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread Russell Standish
de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 10:46 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Food for thought On Sun, Apr 19, 2015

RE: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:24 AM To: everything-list Subject: Re: Food for thought Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread meekerdb
On 4/19/2015 11:33 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: I agree on some level; however in the case of the one million zero bits I would argue that in the context of the given query or search this result may be the precise information that is desired and the noise bits are rejected

RE: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:06 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Food for thought On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:57 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote

RE: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 10:46 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Food for thought On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: It sems that one image is worth a thousands Shakespeare books. Mathematics can tell you how much information something has, but it can't tell you how important that information is because that is a function of

RE: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:30 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Food for thought Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-19 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: in the case of the one million zero bits I would argue that in the context of the given query or search this result may be the precise information that is desired [...] without knowledge

RE: Food for thought

2015-04-18 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Telmo Menezes Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 12:22 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Food for thought On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-18 Thread John Mikes
@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Food for thought On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/17/2015 11:56 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-18 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:57 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: pls. tellme: what should we call 'information'? Information is a measure of surprise, and it turns out that surprise is not continuous but comes in lumps. And we understand quite a bit about information, in fact information

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/17/2015 11:56 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-17 Thread meekerdb
On 4/17/2015 11:56 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from the dawn of humans through the current century. It has been estimated that

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-17 Thread Kim Jones
On 18 Apr 2015, at 4:56 am, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from the dawn of humans through

Re: Food for thought

2015-04-17 Thread LizR
Of course about 99% of the information being generated is porn and/or pictures of cats with silly captions. (Or both.) On 18 April 2015 at 12:15, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 18 Apr 2015, at 4:56 am, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com