RE: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-07 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
 

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wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

 

Anything in the egg cell, or donated at any point during gestation from the 
mother (in mammals, at least) can be passed on, I assume. (What about 
mitochondria?)

 

Mitochondria comes from mom; it is exclusively matrilineal

 

 

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Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-07 Thread John Mikes
Liz:
passed on - do you mean survives AS IS? I think whatever is added
incubates into the complexity of the new creature into fitting, not 'as
was' in the mother.
And- I think mitochondria IS a cell within the larger one in symbiotic
life. Chris is most likely right:  FROM THE MOTHER only. And it is adjusted
into the new complexity as well.
JM

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:18 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anything in the egg cell, or donated at any point during gestation from
 the mother (in mammals, at least) can be passed on, I assume. (What about
 mitochondria?)

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Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-07 Thread John Mikes
Apologies: MITOCHONDRIUM  -   I S  -   and mitochondria -are.   JM

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:14 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:

 Liz:
 passed on - do you mean survives AS IS? I think whatever is added
 incubates into the complexity of the new creature into fitting, not 'as
 was' in the mother.
 And- I think mitochondria IS a cell within the larger one in symbiotic
 life. Chris is most likely right:  FROM THE MOTHER only. And it is adjusted
 into the new complexity as well.
 JM

 On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:18 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anything in the egg cell, or donated at any point during gestation from
 the mother (in mammals, at least) can be passed on, I assume. (What about
 mitochondria?)

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Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-07 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List

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Apologies: MITOCHONDRIUM  -   I S  -   and mitochondria -are.   JM


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:14 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:

Liz:passed on - do you mean survives AS IS? I think whatever is added 
incubates into the complexity of the new creature into fitting, not 'as was' in 
the mother. And- I think mitochondria IS a cell within the larger one in 
symbiotic life. Chris is most likely right:  FROM THE MOTHER only. And it is 
adjusted into the new complexity as well. 
This is the reason why mitochondria are used as a yardstick to measure the 
natural rate of mutation (e.g. the genetic drift). Because all animals 
exclusively get their own mitochondria from their mother -- e.g. NOT by sexual 
reproduction, which effectively is a shuffling of the genetic heritage of both 
portions of both parents DNA. The mitochondria DNA instead only ever comes from 
the maternal line and for this reason it makes a good genetic clock. A clock 
that can be used to estimate how old a species is, or that can tell a story of 
how a species almost went extinct some 70,000 years ago -- as happened to our 
own species. The reason e know this is by studying the genetic diversity of 
human mitochondrial DNA.Interestingly the Y chromosome, which all males of a 
species carry and exclusively get from the paternal side, can also function as 
a yardstick, again because it is unaffected by sexual reproduction. If an 
offspring has the Y chromosome (e.g. is a male) it got it from its father and 
never ever got it from its mother. For all our other chromosomes what we get is 
the sexually reshuffled recombined deck of cards, some of which came from each 
parent.Does this make any sense?Chris
JM
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:18 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

Anything in the egg cell, or donated at any point during gestation from the 
mother (in mammals, at least) can be passed on, I assume. (What about 
mitochondria?)

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Re: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-06 Thread LizR
Anything in the egg cell, or donated at any point during gestation from the
mother (in mammals, at least) can be passed on, I assume. (What about
mitochondria?)

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RE: Histones (proteins that form the scaffolding around which DNA wraps itself may also themselves be involved in heredity processes

2015-04-04 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
The process of heredity may have more levels of actors in it than just the
DNA itself. An interesting notion that seems logical; a case of living
processes employing various different strategies in parallel, which would
seem a plausible result of a process of random selection based on
environmental fitness.

Chris

 

DNA can't explain all inherited biological traits, research shows

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150402161751.htm

 

Characteristics passed between generations are not decided solely by DNA,
but can be brought about by other material in cells, new research shows.
Scientists studied proteins found in cells, known as histones, which are not
part of the genetic code, but act as spools around which DNA is wound.
Histones are known to control whether or not genes are switched on.

 

Quoting two paragraphs from the article here: 

Researchers found that naturally occurring changes to these proteins, which
affect how they control genes, can be sustained from one generation to the
next and so influence which traits are passed on.

The finding demonstrates for the first time that DNA is not solely
responsible for how characteristics are inherited. It paves the way for
research into how and when this method of inheritance occurs in nature, and
if it is linked to particular traits or health conditions.

It may also inform research into whether changes to the histone proteins
that are caused by environmental conditions -- such as stress or diet -- can
influence the function of genes passed on to offspring.

 

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