Re: Re: Leibniz on heaven, hell, and zombies (?)

2012-09-07 Thread Roger Clough
Hi Stathis Papaioannou 


Thanks for the correction.


Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/7/2012 
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him 
so that everything could function.
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Subject: Re: Leibniz on heaven, hell, and zombies (?)


On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Stathis Papaioannou

 A fun question. I assume that zombies are the dead brought back
 to life somehow. That monads cannot be created or destroyed
 Is a peculiar feature of Leibniz's metaphysics that would enable the
 resurrection of zombies.

 Leibniz believed that even when we die, our monad will
 still be attached to a dead and rotting corpse, since monads cannot be
 created
 or destroyed and must always be attached to bodies. Heaven then at first
 seems problematic, but that may be the reason for the Bible's doctrine of
 the resurrection of
 the dead, during which we will be given spiffy new (younger probably)
 bodies. Presumably those sent to hell would remain rotting bodies.

 It seems reasonable to assume that the witches or voodoo used to
 bring the zombies back from a dead state would have imperfect
 abilities so that the dead would then be brought back perhaps to a
 state reasembing a nightmare in which they are made to believe
 that they must eat human flesh So there you are.

 The zombies should be killable a second time like the first.

 To answer you second question, I don't believe we are
 zombies because our intellect seems not to be in a dream state and also
 that we don't crave human flesh.

A philosophical zombie is a being that acts as if it's conscious but
isn't really:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie

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Re: Leibniz on heaven, hell, and zombies (?)

2012-09-06 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi Stathis Papaioannou

 A fun question. I assume that zombies are the dead brought back
 to life somehow. That monads cannot be created or destroyed
 Is a peculiar feature of Leibniz's metaphysics that would enable the
 resurrection of zombies.

 Leibniz believed that even when we die, our monad will
 still be attached to a dead and rotting corpse, since monads cannot be
 created
 or destroyed and must always be attached to bodies. Heaven then at first
 seems problematic, but that may be the reason for the Bible's doctrine of
 the resurrection of
 the dead, during which we will be given spiffy new (younger probably)
 bodies. Presumably those sent to hell would remain rotting bodies.

 It seems reasonable to assume that the witches or voodoo used to
 bring the zombies back from a dead state would have imperfect
 abilities so that the dead would then be brought back perhaps to a
 state reasembing a nightmare in which they are made to believe
 that they must eat human flesh So there you are.

 The zombies should be killable a second time like the first.

 To answer you second question, I don't believe we are
 zombies because our intellect seems not to be in a dream state and also
 that we don't crave human flesh.

A philosophical zombie is a being that acts as if it's conscious but
isn't really:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie

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Stathis Papaioannou

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