On 11 Oct 2012, at 17:39, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Bruno: BEC are Turing emulable, so you can't get substance dualism,
Richard: Please explain why not.
It is the object of the UD Argument. If there is a level where my body/
brain (whatever it is) is Turing emulable, then the physical reality
Bruno,
Well if you do not need any substances at all, that includes
electrons, protons, neutrons,
neutrinos, dark matter and energy as well as particles of the mind. So
if any of these so-called substances have any existence at all, then I
bet that they all do, which is all I need for my
Hi Richard,
On 12 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Bruno,
Well if you do not need any substances at all, that includes
electrons, protons, neutrons,
neutrinos, dark matter and energy as well as particles of the mind. So
if any of these so-called substances have any existence at all,
Wiki: In philosophy of mind, dualism is the assumption that mental
phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical,[1] or that the mind and
body are not identical.[2] Thus, it encompasses a set of views about
the relationship between mind and matter, and is contrasted with other
positions, such as
On 12 Oct 2012, at 16:30, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Wiki: In philosophy of mind, dualism is the assumption that mental
phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical,[1] or that the mind and
body are not identical.[2] Thus, it encompasses a set of views about
the relationship between mind and
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From: Bruno Marchal
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Time: 2012-10-12, 11:55:31
Subject: Re: more firewalls
On 12 Oct 2012, at 16:30, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Wiki: In philosophy of mind, dualism is the assumption that mental
phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical,[1
My opinion for what that is worth is that arithmetical dreams
describe what happens in heaven where whatever we think
becomes reality and if enough of us think the same thing
it becomes a video game we can play together.
My opinion is that inanimate physical things are more concrete
even if
Enough
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
The why is that your conception of space is unscientific.
You sound like a New Ager.
Why do you think that my conception of space is
On 10 Oct 2012, at 18:47, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Craig,
I claim that a connection is needed in substance dualism between the
substance of the mind and the substance of the brain. That is, if
consciousness resides in a BEC in the brain and also in the mind, then
the two can become entangled
: 2012-10-09, 08:25:10
Subject: Re: more firewalls
Hi Roger,
What makes you think that what you claim is true?
Richard
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Richard Ruquist
Nature has put a firewall between subjective entities such as monads
and objective entities
Hi Richard Ruquist
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
10/10/2012
Forever is a long time, especially near the end. -Woody Allen
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From: Richard Ruquist
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Time: 2012-10-09, 08:25:10
Subject: Re: more firewalls
Hi Roger,
What
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:51:50 AM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
Roger,
To say that a connection is based on logic is a category error.
More specifically,
I conjecture that the connection in the brain between the physical brain
and the (computational?) mind/monads is based on BEC
Craig,
I claim that a connection is needed in substance dualism between the
substance of the mind and the substance of the brain. That is, if
consciousness resides in a BEC in the brain and also in the mind, then
the two can become entangled and essentially be copies of each other.
So the BEC
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:47:47 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
Craig,
I claim that a connection is needed in substance dualism between the
substance of the mind and the substance of the brain. That is, if
consciousness resides in a BEC in the brain and also in the mind, then
the two
Craig,
The experiencers are the monads and the physical neurons..
I conjure experiencers because I have experiences.
But it appears that two kinds of experiencers are necessary.
The BEC just connects them. I do not care what you call that.
Names are not important.
Richard
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:32:40 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
Craig,
The experiencers are the monads and the physical neurons..
I conjure experiencers because I have experiences.
But it appears that two kinds of experiencers are necessary.
The BEC just connects them. I do not care
Craig,
Neurons are made in accordance with physical laws.
You are confusing string theory with comp which apparently makes everything.
String theory monads are made in the big bang by having the excess
dimensions of the space of string theory curl up into 1000 planck
diameter particles that
I disagree with everything you suggest.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:52:30 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
Craig,
Neurons are made in accordance with physical laws.
You are confusing string theory with comp which
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:46:17 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
I disagree with everything you suggest.
You are welcome to disagree, but without knowing why, I can only assume
that you don't really have an argument against my view. The bottom line is
that without some theory which gets us
The why is that your conception of space is unscientific.
You sound like a New Ager.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:46:17 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
I disagree with everything you suggest.
You are welcome to
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
The why is that your conception of space is unscientific.
You sound like a New Ager.
Why do you think that my conception of space is unscientific? Saying I
sound like a New Ager makes you sound unscientific.
On Wed, Oct
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
The why is that your conception of space is unscientific.
You sound like a New Ager.
Also, not to pick a fight or to diminish the work that you are doing (which
I respect), but your conception of space is:
Hi Roger,
What makes you think that what you claim is true?
Richard
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Richard Ruquist
Nature has put a firewall between subjective entities such as monads
and objective entities such as BECs or the manifolds.
When I
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