Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-19 Thread Michael Rosefield
Why should there be only one correct TOE? Can't we simultaneously inhabit alternative universes that are currently indistinguishable to us yet differ on a fundamental level? - 3-line Narnia - C.S. LEWIS: Finally, a Utopia ruled by children and populated by talking animals. THE

Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Sep 2008, at 19:06, Brent Meeker wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we are due for yet another extension to logic, one which will contain Bayesianism as a special case. But logic is also the manipulation of sequences of propositions. No matter how clever, you still need

Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-10 Thread Brent Meeker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 10, 5:06 pm, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes there is. In fact descriptions with fewer free parameters are automatically favored by Bayesian inference. http://quasar.as.utexas.edu/papers/ockham.pdf Brent Meeker Nice try. That's an

Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-09 Thread marc . geddes
On Sep 9, 9:04 am, Günther Greindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a pertinent paper, just published: Unmasking the Truth Beneath the Beauty: Why the Supposed Aesthetic Judgements Made in Science May Not Be Aesthetic at All Cain S. Todd International Studies in the Philosophy of

Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-09 Thread marc . geddes
Gunther, Let me further clarify: The problem with Bayesianism is that there is no precise definition of 'simplicity' and 'complexity' for finite strings, which is needed to effectively apply the principle of Occam's razor. To elaborate: (a) There is no measure of simplicity/complexity for

Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-09 Thread Brent Meeker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gunther, Let me further clarify: The problem with Bayesianism is that there is no precise definition of 'simplicity' and 'complexity' for finite strings, which is needed to effectively apply the principle of Occam's razor. To elaborate: (a) There is no

Re: Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-09 Thread marc . geddes
On Sep 10, 5:06 pm, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes there is.  In fact descriptions with fewer free parameters are automatically favored by Bayesian inference. http://quasar.as.utexas.edu/papers/ockham.pdf Brent Meeker Nice try. That's an interesting paper, but it's

Regarding Aesthetics

2008-09-08 Thread Günther Greindl
Here is a pertinent paper, just published: Unmasking the Truth Beneath the Beauty: Why the Supposed Aesthetic Judgements Made in Science May Not Be Aesthetic at All Cain S. Todd International Studies in the Philosophy of Science, Volume 22, Issue 1 March 2008 , pages 61 - 79 DOI: