Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jan 2014, at 16:44, Craig Weinberg wrote: The whole point of a super intelligent AI is that it has nothing to learn from us. We certainly disagree a lot on this. I think that the more you are intelligent, the more you can learn from others, any others, even from bacteria and

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-18 Thread LizR
On 18 January 2014 04:47, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 17, 2014 6:14:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/16/2014 3:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The singularity is in the past, and is the discovery of the

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jan 2014, at 15:52, Jason Resch wrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 03:46, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: A long, rambling but often interesting discussion

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jan 2014, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/16/2014 3:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 03:46, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: A long, rambling but often interesting discussion among guys at MIRI about how to

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-17 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
On Friday, January 17, 2014 5:14:13 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: To be franc, I don't believe in super-intelligence. I do believe in super-competence, relative to some domain, but as I have explained from time to time, competence has a negative feedback on intelligence. Intelligence is a

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
Institute Blog http://intelligence.org -- MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt, Karnofsky, and Amodeihttp://intelligence.org/2014/01/13/miri-strategy-conversation-with-steinhardt-karnofsky-and-amodei/?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=miri-strategy

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Friday, January 17, 2014 6:14:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 20:12, meekerdb wrote: On 1/16/2014 3:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The singularity is in the past, and is the discovery of the universal machine. In a sense, we can make it only more stupid, like when

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
treat others as they don't want to be treated. If not send me 10^100 $ (or €) on my bank account, because that is how I wish to be treated, right now. :) Bruno Jason Original Message The Singularity Institute Blog MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-16 Thread Jason Resch
the distinction but can't it also be turned around? E.g., I don't want to be treated as though I'm not worth sending 10^100 dollars to right now. Jason Jason Original Message The Singularity Institute Blog MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt, Karnofsky, and Amodei

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-16 Thread meekerdb
On 1/15/2014 11:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2014 6:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-16 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:49 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2014 11:35 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2014 6:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-16 Thread meekerdb
On 1/16/2014 3:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 03:46, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: A long, rambling but often interesting discussion among guys at MIRI about how to make an

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-16 Thread LizR
On 17 January 2014 08:12, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Like a super-intelligent AI will treat us as we want to be treated. Why not? I hope you haven't been mistreating *your* pets! I don't want to be neglected in your generous disbursal of funds. No, me neither. In fact give me a

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
and machines. Bruno Brent Original Message The Singularity Institute Blog MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt, Karnofsky, and Amodei Posted: 13 Jan 2014 11:22 PM PST On October 27th, 2013, MIRI met with three additional members of the effective altruism community

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-15 Thread LizR
The Singularity Institute Blog http://intelligence.org -- MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt, Karnofsky, and Amodeihttp://intelligence.org/2014/01/13/miri-strategy-conversation-with-steinhardt-karnofsky-and-amodei/?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=miri

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-15 Thread Jason Resch
conclusion, for universalism says that others are self. Jason Original Message The Singularity Institute Blog http://intelligence.org -- MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt, Karnofsky, and Amodeihttp://intelligence.org/2014/01/13/miri

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-15 Thread LizR
Inventing hyperintelligent AIs may be a way to discover if there are universal moral truths (the hard way!) I'm sorry, Jason, but I'm afraid I can't do that... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-15 Thread meekerdb
On 1/15/2014 6:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: A long, rambling but often interesting discussion among guys at MIRI about how to make an AI that is superintelligent but not dangerous

Re: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-15 Thread Jason Resch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:46 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/15/2014 6:46 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: A long, rambling but often interesting discussion among guys at MIRI about how to make an AI that is

Fwd: The Singularity Institute Blog

2014-01-14 Thread meekerdb
Machine Intelligence Research Institute » Blog The Singularity Institute Blog http://intelligence.org -- MIRI strategy conversation with Steinhardt, Karnofsky, and Amodei http://intelligence.org