2013/10/2 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:35, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2013/10/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Sep 2013, at 15:56, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Not exactly. And that depends on what we call as science. Many called
sciences are pure rubbish,
2013/9/30 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/30/2013 2:02 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Let me give an example: Free will.
That we can choose between alternative actions (and we can predict the
consequences for the good or evil of ourselves and others) has been ever
considered a fact.
I forgot to answer the last one:
2013/9/30 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/30/2013 2:02 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Let me give an example: Free will.
That we can choose between alternative actions (and we can predict the
consequences for the good or evil of ourselves and others) has
2013/10/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Sep 2013, at 15:56, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Not exactly. And that depends on what we call as science. Many called
sciences are pure rubbish, while some other disciplines outside of what is
now called science are much more interesting. I´, in
On 02 Oct 2013, at 10:35, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2013/10/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Sep 2013, at 15:56, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Not exactly. And that depends on what we call as science. Many
called sciences are pure rubbish, while some other disciplines
outside of
On 10/2/2013 1:17 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
All the rest, including theories, must accommodate this fact and not
the other
way around.
The trouble is this fact just refers to a personal feeling and so is
useless for
social policy: Did you feel that you had free
2013/10/2 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/2/2013 1:17 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
All the rest, including theories, must accommodate this fact and not
the other way around.
The trouble is this fact just refers to a personal feeling and so is
useless for social policy: Did you
On 30 Sep 2013, at 15:56, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Not exactly. And that depends on what we call as science. Many
called sciences are pure rubbish, while some other disciplines
outside of what is now called science are much more interesting. I´,
in favor of good science and good
Let me give an example: Free will.
That we can choose between alternative actions (and we can predict the
consequences for the good or evil of ourselves and others) has been ever
considered a fact. something evident. No greek philosopher, no oriental
philosopher, to my knowledge, considered free
On 29 Sep 2013, at 11:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I knew yesterday that the reason why Percival Lowel (and many
others) saw canals -and life- in Mars is because at this time the
Panama Canal was being constructed, and this novelty captivated the
imagination of the people. everithing
Not exactly. And that depends on what we call as science. Many called
sciences are pure rubbish, while some other disciplines outside of what is
now called science are much more interesting. I´, in favor of good science
and good philosophy. I consider good whatever knowledge endavour that is
not
On 29 Sep 2013, at 20:41, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/29/2013 4:05 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Yes. That naive uthopianism is quite recent in history. And it is
local to the western world, because it is a deformation of the
chirstian concept of salvation.
The Greeks thought they had declined
On 9/30/2013 2:02 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Let me give an example: Free will.
That we can choose between alternative actions (and we can predict the consequences for
the good or evil of ourselves and others) has been ever considered a fact. something
evident. No greek philosopher, no
Brent: I stopped short (but violated this rule many times ) from arguing
against the fallacies included in the age-old 'religious' belief systems.
The reason: one irate response took me to task: who gave me superiority
over HIS (and other's) belief? He was hurt and I don't like to hurt
people.
On 9/30/2013 1:14 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent: I stopped short (but violated this rule many times ) from arguing against the
fallacies included in the age-old 'religious' belief systems. The reason: one irate
response took me to task: who gave me superiority over HIS (and other's) belief? He
I knew yesterday that the reason why Percival Lowel (and many others) saw
canals -and life- in Mars is because at this time the Panama Canal was
being constructed, and this novelty captivated the imagination of the
people. everithing had a solution with a canal. And everything could be
solved
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Subject: The canal effect
I knew yesterday that the reason why Percival Lowel (and many others) saw
canals -and life- in Mars is because at this time the Panama Canal was
being constructed, and this novelty captivated the imagination
when ideas were not framed by the exciting possibilities offered by the
contemporary technology?
All the best
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Subject: The canal effect
On 9/29/2013 4:05 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Yes. That naive uthopianism is quite recent in history. And it is local to the western
world, because it is a deformation of the chirstian concept of salvation.
The Greeks thought they had declined from a golden age - long before heard of
The danger is to think that all questions are seen through a filter of
culture and language, *therefore* we don't get any closer to the truth.
This is the mistake that makes postmodernism (as a philosophy) useless, and
is of course what science is designed to avoid, as much as is humanly
possible,
2013/9/29 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/29/2013 4:05 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Yes. That naive uthopianism is quite recent in history. And it is local to
the western world, because it is a deformation of the chirstian concept of
salvation.
The Greeks thought they had declined
On 30 September 2013 12:15, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
Although this is lateral to what I wanted to say,... the decline
standpoint is just the opposite of the the heaven is coming of the
uthopians. The latter is genuinelly western and postchristian (I would say
puritan)
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