Re: Re: Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
-09, 09:55:41 Subject: Re: Wave collapse and consciousness On 09 Jan 2013, at 12:20, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal You say, Well, with comp, the mind arise from arithmetic. Wouldn't a Platonist say instead that arithmetic arises from mind ? Some Platonist have defended

Re: Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
-09, 09:55:41 Subject: Re: Wave collapse and consciousness On 09 Jan 2013, at 12:20, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal You say, Well, with comp, the mind arise from arithmetic. Wouldn't a Platonist say instead that arithmetic arises from mind ? Some Platonist have defended idealism

Re: Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
on if that property extends to the body: like, for instance, arithmetic photons that seemingly bridge the duality... No, matter, once we assume comp, is much more than arithmetic, like mind. Bruno yanniru On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Wave collapse

Re: Re: Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-09 Thread Roger Clough
content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-09, 05:13:03 Subject: Re: Wave collapse and consciousness On 08 Jan 2013, at 17:50, Richard Ruquist wrote: For the record, Roger's post illuminates an optimal division between the mind: the EM, and quantum

Re: Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
, especially near the end. - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-09, 05:13:03 Subject: Re: Wave collapse and consciousness On 08 Jan 2013, at 17:50, Richard Ruquist wrote: For the record, Roger's post illuminates

Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-08 Thread Roger Clough
Wave collapse and consciousness According to the discussion below, a field only has potential existence, it does not exist by itself. It requires a body to interact with it. This difference is easily confused in usage. For example, we may speak of an electromagnetic field as if it is a real

Re: Wave collapse and consciousness

2013-01-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Jan 2013, at 15:57, Roger Clough wrote: Wave collapse and consciousness According to the discussion below, a field only has potential existence, it does not exist by itself. It requires a body to interact with it. This difference is easily confused in usage. For example, we may