Re: A FAQ document proposal for this list

2001-02-20 Thread Marchal
Hi Wei Dai, It's not possible to do that through the escribe.com interface as far as I know. However I have an archive of the list in Unix mailbox format, which you might be able to import into your email software and print from there. Or, since it's a text format you can print it directly if

Re: on formally describable universes and measures

2001-02-20 Thread George Levy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 18 01:16:16 2001 The exchange between Bruno and Juergens is, I believe, instructive and constructive as it forces them to refine their positions. Where did I have to refine mine? JS That' right I guess. You didn't have to refine

Re: A FAQ document proposal for this list

2001-02-20 Thread Marchal
Well here is a first try with some proposed questions for the FAQ list: I have filled in some responses here and there to illustrate the ideas of individualized and multiple responses. This allows the dialog to be sustained but hopefully eventually coalesce Thank you Hal. Now you give us a

Re: on formally describable universes and measures

2001-02-20 Thread George Levy
jamikes wrote: George, ... I have only some remarks: I I think (not a Cartesian wordageG) the first step would be: 0.1: Causality IS, then you may introduce your points. The whole point of starting with I is to avoid starting with a *bare* assumption such as the one you suggest

Re: on formally describable universes and measures

2001-02-20 Thread Saibal Mitra
Jürgen wrote: ``Please read again. If "consciousness" is indeed a well-defined concept,and if there are any "conscious" computable observers, then they will becomputed. Otherwise they won't. In either case there is no need to defineconsciousness - I have not seen a convincing definition

Re: need for anthropic reasoning

2001-02-20 Thread Jacques Mallah
From: Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:22:35PM -0500, Jacques Mallah wrote: Any reasonable goal will, like social welfare, involve a function of the (unnormalized) measure distribution of conscious thoughts. What else would social welfare mean? For example, it could

Re: on formally describable universes and measures

2001-02-20 Thread juergen
This time I'll repeat only a fraction of the 500 lines in your reply: From [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Suppose you survive only through a simulation of the big bang at the level of the quantum superstring, membrane, etc. then the correct level of substitution is the level of the quantum