RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Jonathan Colvin
Jonathan Colvin writes: That's putting it mildly. I was thinking that it is more likely that a universe tunnels out of a black hole that just randomly happens to contain your precise brain state at that moment, and for all of future eternity. But the majority of these random universes

FW: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
-Original Message- From: Lee Corbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:24 AM To: EverythingList Subject: RE: many worlds theory of immortality John Collins had written ..You [Hal] are working from the assumption that each person has some sort of transcendental

Re: [Fwd: Re: Many worlds theory of immortality]

2005-05-12 Thread danny mayes
I read "Why Occam's Razor" tonight after posting my last response (despite having a Federal court brief begging for attention). I didn't have time to wade through the technical parts very thoroughly, but in general I found it a very good summary of many of the topics we have been frequently

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
The obvious and sensible-sounding response to Jeanne's question whether it may be possible to access other universes through dreams or hallucinations is that it is not really any more credible than speculation that people can contact the dead, or have been kidnapped by aliens, or any other of

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread John Collins
Dear Stathis, This ties in with the subject header of this series of posts, which is a rare occurence: Many Wolrds Immortality, according to which there will be some branch of the multiverse in which I hit enough crows and pigeons on the way down to form a lifesaving mushy matress (mattress?),

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread aet.radal ssg
Dear Stathis: Your interpretation of my "anger" says more about you than me. I didn't flame you or call you or mentally ill people names. My only point is that if you want to seriously investigate complex concepts scientifically, then it helps to have the most accurate methods available. Even

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
I agree with Stathis' answer to Jeanne. Another one which looks a little bit incompatible with the one by Stathis would be: if QM is correct no information can travel from one universe to another. So such an hallucination can only be such a coincidence or a triviality (whatever I think, there

Final Announcement

2005-05-12 Thread Ti Bo
Final Announcement Data Ecologies 2005 will take place from 9:30 until 16:00 at the Time's Up laboratories in Linz this Friday 13th and Saturday 14th May. Themes include the physics of virtual spaces, whether real space is computed (do we live in a giant computer?) and how to use this for

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Jesse Mazer
Generally, unasked-for attempts at armchair psychology to explain the motivations of another poster on an internet forum, like the comment that someone just wants to hear themself talk, are justly considered flames and tend to have the effect of derailing productive discussion. I actually agree

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 02:48:17PM -0400, Jesse Mazer wrote: Generally, unasked-for attempts at armchair psychology to explain the motivations of another poster on an internet forum, like the comment that someone just wants to hear themself talk, are justly considered flames and tend to

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 08:47:09AM -0500, aet.radal ssg wrote: ??? Could I please request that people post only plain text emails to the everything list, or at very least include a plain text translation? This is a sending option available on all HTML email clients I've come across. It's a real

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
I doubt that there are many people who have known someone with a mental illness and would claim that there is anything positive about the experience. While sometimes the mentally ill themselves claim that they have a superior insight into reality, that's just because they lack insight into the

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Jesse Mazer
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: I doubt that there are many people who have known someone with a mental illness and would claim that there is anything positive about the experience. While sometimes the mentally ill themselves claim that they have a superior insight into reality, that's just because

Re: Many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Saibal Mitra
One could say that the brain of some schizophrenic persons simulate otherpersons. I don't know if some of you have seen the film 'A Beautiful mind'about the life of mathematician Nash. In the film Nash was closelyacquainted to persons that didn't realy exist. Only much later when he

RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Lee Corbin
Brent writes I think that an observer must be physically instantiated - that seems well supported empirically. As it is used a observer moment seems to mean a unit of subjective experience. That there is an observer, i.e. something with continuity over many such subjective experiences, must

RE: many worlds theory of immortality

2005-05-12 Thread Brent Meeker
-Original Message- From: Lee Corbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:40 AM To: EverythingList Subject: RE: many worlds theory of immortality Brent writes I think that an observer must be physically instantiated - that seems well supported empirically. As it is