Reality vs. Perception of Reality

2005-08-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stuff for Brent and more. 1) Phenomenality Definition: Block N. 2003. Consciousness, Philosophical Issues about. In: Nadel L, editor. Encyclopedia of Cognitive Science. London: Nature Pub. Group. What's phenomenality? Did you look for it in a brain? Yes. That's the whole issue.

Re: Reality vs. Perception of Reality

2005-08-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 01-août-05, à 03:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Hales) a écrit : Reality vs perception of reality? I vote we work really hard on the latter and drop all ascription in relation to the former. A significant dose of humility indeed. I don't think objective reality can be perceived (only

Theology (was in-between-times)

2005-08-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 31-juil.-05, à 03:13, Kim Jones wrote (just before the thread was censored). Theology concerns itself with the mechanism of belief. What is the mechanism of belief? It acts like a filter, or a pair of tinted glasses if you will. Belief is that way of looking at reality that reinforces

RE: Theology (was in-between-times)

2005-08-04 Thread chris peck
Bruno wrote: No. But then your definition of theology is perhaps a little bit to much a contingent matter. Perhaps the word theology has too many connotations. I agree largely. I think the correct distinction to make between what people seem to mean wrt the religion/science dispute is

Re: OMs are events

2005-08-04 Thread Hal Finney
Brent Meeker writes: I'm uncertain whether instantiated by abstract mathematical patterns means that the patterns are being physically realized by a process in time (as in the sci-fi above) or by the physical existence of the patterns in some static form (e.g. written pieces of paper)

Re: OMs are events

2005-08-04 Thread scerir
Hal: My tentative opinion is that it does make sense to ascribe Platonic existence to such things but I am interested to hear other people's thoughts. It is, perhaps, interesting, that 'time', for Plato, is 'moving according to number'. That is to say ... equations, if I understand it

Re: OMs are events

2005-08-04 Thread Hal Finney
Brent Meeker wrote (he always forgets to forward to the list): Hal Finney wrote: I'd be curious to know whether you think that Platonic existence could include a notion of time. I think timelessness is a defining characteristic of Platonic existence. I use scare quotes because I'm not

Reality vs. Perception of Reality

2005-08-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My final ramblings. From: Bruno Marchal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Moi Reality vs perception of reality? I vote we work really hard on the latter and drop all ascription in relation to the former. A significant dose of humility indeed. Bruno I don't think objective reality can be