RE: Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Bruno Marchal writes: Itcouldbe,forexample,thatIhavebeenbrainwashedandmymemories ofthepastarepartlyorcompletelyfalsememories. Thereisnofalse1-memories.Onlyanassociationbetweensome1-memory andsome3-realitycanbefalse.Ifsomeonesucceedsinimplementing

RE: Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread John M
Stathis and Bruno: I am still perlexed (aren't we all?) about the use of the 1 vs 3. There is no 3rd person 'reality', only the 1st person memory of somebody else communicated to me when it becomes acknowledged as MY 1st person interpretation of it. I feel we rub too close to the solipsist

RE: Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Quentin Anciaux writes: HiJohn, LeVendredi30Juin200621:06,JohnMaécrit: AninterestingobservationfromSaibalthatincreasing theinfo-inputtoone'sbrainkillsperson(ality?). Iwouldnotsay"dead",rather'changed'asintosome differentone.(Itisagradualchange,deathisbeing thoughtofassomethingmoreabruptand

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread jamikes
- Original Message - From: Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: A calculus of personal identity Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 01-juil.-06, à 19:54, Brent Meeker a écrit : Sure it is. Just because something

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread Brent Meeker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: A calculus of personal identity Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 01-juil.-06, à 19:54, Brent Meeker a écrit :

RE: Back to Existence: Physically Real vs. Platonic

2006-07-03 Thread Lee Corbin
Brent wrote Okay, suppose that there are no observers, and the Earth has been burnt to a cinder except for one copy of Milton's Paradise Lost, and one copy of the Oxford English dictionary. It seems to me that we should say that just two books still exist. Do you agree? Supposing

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread John M
--- Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: A calculus of personal identity Bruno Marchal

RE: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Lee Corbin writes: whichiswhyinsymmetricalduplicationexperimentsIanticipate thatIwillbecomeoneoftheduplicateswithequalprobability. Whatdoyouthinkofyoursurvivalchancesifyouhappentoknow thatafteryoufallasleeptonight,youwillbedisintegrated, buttheinformationwillbeusedtocreatetwoexactduplicates,

Re: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread Brent Meeker
John M wrote: --- Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: A calculus of personal identity Bruno Marchal

RE: A calculus of personal identity

2006-07-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Yet another thought experiment for your consideration. You are offered the option of 10 years of normal life, or being cloned 20 times with each clone living one year. I would choose the 10 years; if I chose the 20 clones, each one of those clones would be kicking themselves for their stupidity.

RE: Back to Existence: Physically Real vs. Platonic

2006-07-03 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
Lee Corbin writes: Abookistheanalogythatcametomind,butthereisan importantdifferencebetweenthisandconsciousexperience. Books,sentences,wordsmaynotneedtobephysically collectedtogethertomakeacoherentlargerstructure, buttheydoneedtobesomehowsortedinthemindofan