Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/18/07, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every conscious perspective within the UD could be said to have some statistical measure in relation to other conscious perspectives. Which is to say, some experiences occur with a greater frequency than others. However, I am wondering if any useful

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/18/07, *Jason* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every conscious perspective within the UD could be said to have some statistical measure in relation to other conscious perspectives. Which is to say, some experiences occur

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Jason
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by the order of your current observer moment. Stathis Papaioannou I see how my wording was confusing. What I meant by order was order vs. disorder, e.g. we are experiencing a well structured observer moment as opposed to white noise,

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-18 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 03:25:51PM +1100, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: One response to this idea is that the non-computational worlds are overrun with white rabbits, whereas the computational worlds allow the calculation of a local measure, such as Russell Standish has described, which explains

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-18 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: I have not extracted the measure (nor do I think Russell did to be honest), but I have extracted the logic of certainty (credibility one) associated to each hypostasis, and those corresponding to Plotinus Matter (or our measure

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/19/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each observer moment lives only transiently and is not in telepathic communication with any other OMs, whether related to it or not. The effect (or illusion) of continuity of consciousness is adequately explained by each OM remembering

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/19/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each observer moment lives only transiently and is not in telepathic communication with any other OMs, whether related to it or not. The effect (or illusion) of

Re: Evidence for the simulation argument

2007-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
I don't mean the white rabbits from the Turing machine, I mean the ones outside it. If we accept that an abstract machine can just exist, without benefit of a separate physical reality, why not also accept that non-computational talking white rabbits can also just exist? That is, why should

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/19/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/19/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each observer moment lives only transiently and is not in telepathic communication with any other OMs, whether

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/19/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/19/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 3/19/07, Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are OMs which don't remember being you then they are not going to be part of your stream of consciousness. There's the rub. Almost all my OMs *do not* include consciously remembering being me (or anyone). And if you suppose

Re: Statistical Measure, does it matter?

2007-03-18 Thread Brent Meeker
Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 3/19/07, *Brent Meeker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are OMs which don't remember being you then they are not going to be part of your stream of consciousness. There's the rub. Almost all my