Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread Torgny Tholerus
rafael jimenez buendia skrev: Sorry, but I think Lisi's paper is fatally flawed. Adding altogether fermions and bosons is plain wrong. Best What is wrong with adding fermions and bosons together?  Xiao-Gang Wen is working with a condensed string-net where the waves behave just like bosons

Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread Torgny Tholerus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: On Nov 23, 8:49 pm, Torgny Tholerus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think that everything is reducible to physical substances and properties. And I think that all of physics is reducible to pure mathematics... You can't have it both ways. If ph

Re: Are First Person prime?

2007-11-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
George, you can do that indeed, but then you are particularizing things. This can be helpful from a pedagogical point of view, but the advantage of the axiomatic approach (to a knowledge theory) is that once you agree on the axioms and rules, then you agree on the consequences independently of

Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 26-nov.-07, à 04:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > > > On Nov 23, 8:49 pm, Torgny Tholerus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: >> >> >> >>> As far as I tell tell, all of physics is ultimately >>> geometry. But as we've pointed out on this list many times, a theory >>> of

Re: Are First Person prime?

2007-11-26 Thread George Levy
Bruno Yes I am particularizing things... But "the end justifies the means". I am being positivist, trying to express these rules as a function of an observer. In any case, once the specific example is worked out, we can fall back on the general case. Your feedback about "exist" not really being

Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread John Mikes
Listers, (Bruno, Torgny, et al.): some (lay) remarks from another mindset (maybe I completely miss your points - perhaps even my own ones). I go with Bruno in a lack of clear understanding what "physical world" may be. It can be extended into entirely mathematical ideas beside the likable assumpt

Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread Russell Standish
Could we have a stop to HTML-only postings please! These are hard to read. On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:51:36AM +0100, Torgny Tholerus wrote: -- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathem

Several Criticisms of the Doomsday Argument

2007-11-26 Thread Gene Ledbetter
In his article, "Investigations into the Doomsday Argument", Nick Bostrom introduces the Doomsday Argument with the following example: << Imagine that two big urns are put in front of you, and you know that one of them contains ten balls and the other a million, but you are ignorant as to which i

Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread marc . geddes
>When I talk about "pure mathematics" I mean that kind of mathematics you have >in GameOfLife. There you have "gliders" that move in the GameOfLife-universe, >and these gliders interact with eachother when they meet. These gliders you >can see as physical objects. These physical objects are

Re: Theory of Everything based on E8 by Garrett Lisi

2007-11-26 Thread marc . geddes
On Nov 27, 3:54 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Besides which, mathematics and physics are dealing with quite > > different distinctions. It is a 'type error' it try to reduce or > > identity one with the other. > > I don't see why. Physics deals with symmetries, forces and