Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-05 Thread Kim Jones
On 04/05/2009, at 12:57 PM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: But doesn't it make sense that if God were personal, and a human person like us could relate to him/her as a person, then that would result in expanding our consciousness? Tom What particular (and verifiable) personal interactions

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-05 Thread daddycaylor
On May 5, 1:27 am, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 04/05/2009, at 12:57 PM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: But doesn't it make sense that if God were personal, and a human person like us could relate to him/her as a person, then that would result in expanding our consciousness?

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2009, at 13:31, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2009/5/4 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: ... It seems to me that we agree that physical supervenience leads to many absurdities. Is your argument purely academical, or do you think it can be used to prevent the conclusion that

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2009, at 18:19, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: The second question is in the form of, Doesn't C imply D?: But doesn't it make sense that if God were personal, and a human person like us could relate to him/her as a person, then that would result in expanding our consciousness?

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-05 Thread Stephen Paul King
Hi Bruno and Members, The comment that is made below seems to only involve a single consciousness and an exterior reality. Could we not recover a very similar situation if we consider the 1-PoV and 3-PoV relation to hold to some degree over a multitude of consciouness (plurality). In the

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-05 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: With just arithmetic, when we stop to postulate a primitive or ontological material world, all primitive ad-hocness is removed, given that the existing internal interpretations are all determined, with their relative

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2009, at 22:31, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: With just arithmetic, when we stop to postulate a primitive or ontological material world, all primitive ad-hocness is removed, given that the existing internal