Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries

2009-06-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Jun 2009, at 17:16, A. Wolf wrote: > >> We agree then. > > Yes, it's my fault for creating a semantics argument. I'm usually > too busy > to even read the list...every once in a while something pops up and > I feel > obliged to comment even when it's the middle of a conversation.

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries

2009-06-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Jun 2009, at 20:31, Jesse Mazer wrote: > >Even for just an arithmetical realist. (All mathematicians are > arithmetical realist, much less are mathematical realist. I am not > an arithmetical realist). > > > I assume you meant to write "I am not a mathematical realist"? Yes. > OK,

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-06-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
Many people believe something like objectivity = serious, truth, rationality etc. subjectivity = not serious, childish, unscientific, irrational when truth is (if I can say, to be short): subjectivity = what you cannot doubt, what you know, truth objectivity = hypothetical, theoretical, but s

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries

2009-06-14 Thread Torgny Tholerus
Quentin Anciaux skrev: > Well it is illegal regarding the rules meaning with these rules set B > does not exist as defined. > What is it that makes set A to exist, and set B not to exist? What is the (important) differences between the definition of set A and the definition of set B? In bo

Re: The seven step-Mathematical preliminaries

2009-06-14 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2009/6/14 Torgny Tholerus : > > Quentin Anciaux skrev: >> Well it is illegal regarding the rules meaning with these rules set B >> does not exist as defined. >> > > What is it that makes set A to exist, and set B not to exist?  What is > the (important) differences between the definition of set A