On 31 Jan 2010, at 03:10, soulcatcher☠ wrote:
I see a red rose. You see a red rose. Is your experience of redness
the same as mine?
1. Yes, they are identical.
2. They are different as long as neural organization of our brains is
slightly different, but you are potentially capable of
What would you say about this setup:
Computer Simulation-Physical Universe-Your Brain
That is to say, what if our physical universe were simulated in some
alien's computer instead of being some primitive physical world?
This setup doesn't sound very convincing to me:
- I believe that
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:05 AM, soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.comwrote:
What would you say about this setup:
Computer Simulation-Physical Universe-Your Brain
That is to say, what if our physical universe were simulated in some
alien's computer instead of being some primitive physical
Do you see the meaning of physical laws being somehow different from the
programmed laws that simulate an environment?
Yes, I feel that simulated mind is not identical to the real one. Simulation
is only the extension of the mind - just a tool, a mental crutch, a
pluggable module that gives
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:27 AM, soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.comwrote:
Do you see the meaning of physical laws being somehow different from the
programmed laws that simulate an environment?
Yes, I feel that simulated mind is not identical to the real one.
Simulation is only the extension
On 28 Jan 2010, at 20:27, RMahoney wrote:
On Jan 8, 12:38 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Welcome RMahoney,
Nice thought experiments. But they need amnesia (like in going from
you to Cruise). I tend to think like you that it may be the case that
we are the same person (like those
I think those simulated persons would be conscious.
The possibility of superintelligence that creates worlds in its dreams kinda
freaks me out :)
So you think the software mind in a software environment would never
question the redness of red, when the robot brain would?
No, I think that
I am subscribed to this list but I am very well-versed, there is a PDF
or something I can read as an introduction, I've ready read the
introduction by Jürgen Schmidhuber to computable universes:
http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/everything/html.html
but I need more introductory reading...
Thanks!
soulcatcher? wrote:
Do you see the meaning of physical laws being somehow different
from the programmed laws that simulate an environment?
Yes, I feel that simulated mind is not identical to the real one.
Simulation is only the extension of the mind - just a tool, a mental
crutch, a
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM, soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.comwrote:
I think those simulated persons would be conscious.
The possibility of superintelligence that creates worlds in its dreams
kinda freaks me out :)
Carl Sagan in Cosmos said that in the Hindu religion, there are an
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM, soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.comwrote:
Let me explain with example. Suppose, that you:
1. simulate my brain in a computer program, so we can say that this
program represents my brain in your symbols.
2. simulate a red rose
3. feed rose data into my
Jason Resch wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:10 PM, soulcatcher☠ soulcatche...@gmail.com
mailto:soulcatche...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me explain with example. Suppose, that you:
1. simulate my brain in a computer program, so we can say that this
program represents my brain in your
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Jack is talking about copies in the common sense of initially physically
identical beings who however occupy different places in the same spacetime
and hence have different viewpoints and experiences.
No, that's incorrect. I
Jack Mallah wrote:
--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
Jack is talking about copies in the common sense of initially physically
identical beings who however occupy different places in the same spacetime and
hence have different viewpoints and experiences.
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