I don't think we can use reason to defeat reason.
What machines can do is to use reason to go beyond reason, and find
some non provable or non rational truth.
This is not a defeat of reason. It is the complete contrary, I would
say.
Bruno
On 02 Jul 2010, at 22:55, rexallen...@gmail.com wro
On 7/12/2010 6:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I don't think we can use reason to defeat reason.
What machines can do is to use reason to go /beyond/ reason, and find
some non provable or non rational truth.
What do you mean by a non-rational truth? A statement that is true but
unprovable or a
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
> You don't spell out what this principle of facticity is, but it seems that
> it refers not to the world, but to our explanations of the world.
So the first sentence says: “I call 'facticity' the absence of reason
for any reality”
In his b
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> I don't think we can use reason to defeat reason.
>
> What machines can do is to use reason to go beyond reason, and find some non
> provable or non rational truth.
>
> This is not a defeat of reason. It is the complete contrary, I would say.
On 7/12/2010 7:56 PM, Allen Rex wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Brent Meeker wrote:
You don't spell out what this principle of facticity is, but it seems that
it refers not to the world, but to our explanations of the world.
So the first sentence says: “I call 'facticity' th
On 7/12/2010 8:00 PM, Allen Rex wrote:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I don't think we can use reason to defeat reason.
What machines can do is to use reason to go beyond reason, and find some non
provable or non rational truth.
This is not a defeat of reason. It is
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Brent Meeker wrote:
>> On 7/12/2010 7:56 PM, Allen Rex wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Brent Meeker
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You don't spell out what this principle of facticity is, but it seems that
>>> it refers not to the world, but to our explanation
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Brent Meeker wrote:
>> On 7/12/2010 8:00 PM, Allen Rex wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think we can use reason to defeat reason.
>>> What machines can do is to use reason to go beyond reason, and find some non
>
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