Re: Against Mechanism

2010-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Dec 2010, at 00:02, Rex Allen wrote: Math causes experiences of math. H. I don't see how or why that would be. If you assume Mechanism, the idea that the brain is Turing emulable, then it is a theorem. And if you assume the classical theory of knowledge, then you can even

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-12-06 Thread 1Z
On Dec 5, 11:02 pm, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: So I would say that time exists within conscious experience, conscious experience doesn't exist within time.  All experiences that exist, do so eternally and timelessly.   So you say, but nothing is experienced *as* eternal

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-12-06 Thread Rex Allen
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 29 Nov 2010, at 05:15, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: Would you admit then, that a computer which interprets bits the same way as a brain could be conscious?

Re: Against Mechanism

2010-12-06 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/6/2010 8:54 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Bruno Marchalmarc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 29 Nov 2010, at 05:15, Rex Allen wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jason Reschjasonre...@gmail.com wrote: Would you admit then, that a computer