Re: Leibnizian ideas

2011-09-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Stephen P. King wrote: On 9/22/2011 11:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 9/22/2011 1:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote: [SPK] Sure, let us consider this similarity to Leibniz' per-

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2011-09-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Sep 2011, at 20:01, meekerdb wrote: On 9/22/2011 10:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I think what Bruno calls the 323 principle is questionable. Can I deduce from this that UDA1-7 is understood. This shows already that either the universe is little or physics is (already) a branch of

Re: bruno list

2011-09-23 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: You claim that ion channels can open and neurons fire in response to thoughts rather than a chain of physical events. No, I observe that ion channels do in fact open and neurons do indeed fire, not 'in response' to

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2011-09-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Roger, On 23 Sep 2011, at 07:37, Roger Granet wrote: Bruno, Hi. Yes, I am pretty much a materialist/physicalist. So, you cannot defend the idea that the brain (or whatever responsible for our consciousness) is Turing emulable. OK? When people say that there are these

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2011-09-23 Thread Pzomby
On Sep 23, 8:41 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Hi Roger, On 23 Sep 2011, at 07:37, Roger Granet wrote: Bruno,     Hi.  Yes, I am pretty much a materialist/physicalist. So, you cannot defend the idea that the brain (or whatever responsible   for our consciousness) is

Re: Leibnizian ideas

2011-09-23 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sep 22, 9:04 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote: From what I understand of Craig's theory it describes a difference between first person and third person experience/reality. Each being two sides of the

Re: Bruno List continued

2011-09-23 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sep 23, 11:13 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: You claim that ion channels can open and neurons fire in response to thoughts rather than a chain of physical events. No, I observe that ion

Re: bruno list

2011-09-23 Thread Craig Weinberg
Stathis, moving over to the new thread if you don't mind... http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/browse_thread/thread/25e9388809c3af7e (is there some trick to getting to the end of a long thread when it doesn't give you a link for new? Why links for Older and Newer I wonder, but none

Re: Bruno List continued

2011-09-23 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sep 23, 3:17 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 23 Sep 2011, at 02:42, Craig Weinberg wrote: My assumption is that the experience of thinking of quantities in a series, like 1, 2, 3, 4 is an example of counting. This is fuzzy. Now, even if you succeed in making explicit

Re: Leibnizian ideas

2011-09-23 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/23/2011 10:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Stephen P. King wrote: On 9/22/2011 11:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net mailto:stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 9/22/2011 1:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote:

Re: Leibnizian ideas

2011-09-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Sep 23, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 22, 9:04 pm, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote: From what I understand of Craig's theory it describes a difference

Re: Leibnizian ideas and COMP 1

2011-09-23 Thread Stephen P. King
On 9/23/2011 10:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 22 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Stephen P. King wrote: On 9/22/2011 11:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net mailto:stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 9/22/2011 1:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote: