Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread compscicrackpot
You might enjoy my conception of God, which I think is the only way in which God can be said to exist: God exists as the attractor of maximal transcendence or the conscious singularity. :) On Nov 8, 5:36 pm, benjayk benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.com wrote: Akin to the idea of the technological

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Nov 2011, at 18:17, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2011/11/13 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 12 Nov 2011, at 23:11, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2011/11/12 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 10 Nov 2011, at 14:51, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2011/11/10 benjayk

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Nov 2011, at 19:13, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2011 3:29:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, marc...@ulb.ac.be writes: Let me try, assuming mechanism. Would you agree that in the case you are cut and pasted in two different places, the resulting individuals share a

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread benjayk
compscicrackpot wrote: You might enjoy my conception of God, which I think is the only way in which God can be said to exist: God exists as the attractor of maximal transcendence or the conscious singularity. :) This fits very well with my conception of God. I don't even think there is a

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Nov 2011, at 22:56, meekerdb wrote: On 11/13/2011 7:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: pure consciousness is what is invariant through the change of memories. But how do you know there is such a thing. By self-observation, thought experiments, and by the mechanist theory---where

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Nov 2011, at 14:30, compscicrackpot wrote: You might enjoy my conception of God, which I think is the only way in which God can be said to exist: God exists as the attractor of maximal transcendence or the conscious singularity. :) Not bad. Actually it is already a theorem in

Re: Universes

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Nov 2011, at 05:21, Jason Resch wrote: A universe with no laws (described by zero information) has no prohibition on what structures exist, and is equivalent to everything existing (which is also described by zero information). Yes, but you need some theory to make this precise.

Re: Amnesia, dissociation and personal identity (was: QTI, Cul de sacs and differentiation)

2011-11-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Nov 2011, at 23:08, John Mikes wrote: To Qentin: DEATH an excellent vaiation for immoprtality. I always emphasize that ETERNITY is NOT a time indicator, can most likely be timeless (POOF it is over). To Bruno: we wrote already about your 2c question WHO ARE WE? and you answered

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-11-14 Thread benjayk
I have a few more ideas to add, considering how this singularity might work in practice. I think that actually consciousness does not start in a linear fashion in our coherent material world, but creates an infinity of semi-coherent beginngs all the time (at all levels of consciousness), which

Re: The hard problem of everything

2011-11-14 Thread compscicrackpot
I wasn't satisfied by the ideas I was able to derive about the universe from consciousness when assuming that they are similar phenomena, but this afternoon I attempted the reverse and found it much more fruitful. What consciousness and the universe have in common is that they are logically

Re: Amnesia, dissociation and personal identity (was: QTI, Cul de sacs and di...

2011-11-14 Thread Spudboy100
This may be off-topic, but taking on a fanciful, notion; is there a means, in principle, for somebody biologically alive, to physically go into other world-lines? I am using the Hugh Everett the 3rd's conception of other worlds/universes. I am, just as a thought, trying to negate the Quantum