Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Dec 11, 6:05 pm, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: The question is - where is the consciousness in all this? I think it must move with the levels - and given the UDA and COMP, I would say that consciousness appears at the Multiverse level, not the single universe level. I

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi! On 12/12/2011 7:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Dec 11, 6:05 pm, Russell Standishli...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: The question is - where is the consciousness in all this? I think it must move with the levels - and given the UDA and COMP, I would say that consciousness appears at the

Re: The consciousness singularity

2011-12-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 11 Dec 2011, at 19:24, meekerdb wrote: On 12/11/2011 8:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 11 Dec 2011, at 07:13, meekerdb wrote: On 12/10/2011 3:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Some say that the interference of particles with themselves in the two-slit experiment is amble evidence for these,

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Dec 2011, at 00:05, Russell Standish wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 02:13:33PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Dec 2011, at 07:23, Russell Standish wrote: AFAICT, Maudlin's argument only works in a single universe setting. What is inert in one universe, is alive and kicking in

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Dec 12, 9:05 am, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: Hi! On 12/12/2011 7:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Dec 11, 6:05 pm, Russell Standishli...@hpcoders.com.au  wrote: The question is - where is the consciousness in all this? I think it must move with the levels - and given

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Dec 2011, at 04:39, Joseph Knight wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Dec 2011, at 19:47, Joseph Knight wrote: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The heap argument was already done when I was

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread meekerdb
On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would consciousness imply evolution? Evolution requires reproduction and differential selection. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/12/2011 12:36 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would consciousness imply evolution? Evolution requires reproduction and differential selection. Brent Hi, Reproduction and

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread meekerdb
On 12/12/2011 11:06 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/12/2011 12:36 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would consciousness imply evolution? Evolution requires reproduction and differential

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/12/2011 2:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/12/2011 11:06 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 12/12/2011 12:36 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would consciousness imply evolution? Evolution

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Dec 12, 12:36 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would consciousness imply evolution?  Evolution requires reproduction and differential selection. I was talking

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread meekerdb
On 12/12/2011 5:04 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Dec 12, 12:36 pm, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would consciousness imply evolution? Evolution requires reproduction

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Dec 12, 8:40 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/12/2011 5:04 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Dec 12, 12:36 pm, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net  wrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't they evolve behind our backs? Why would

Re: Movie Graph Argument

2011-12-12 Thread meekerdb
On 12/12/2011 6:28 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Dec 12, 8:40 pm, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/12/2011 5:04 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Dec 12, 12:36 pm, meekerdbmeeke...@verizon.netwrote: On 12/12/2011 4:55 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: If recordings were conscious, wouldn't