Re: An analogy for Qualia

2012-01-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Jan 2012, at 06:06, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: You confuse naturalism (nature exists I hope we don't have to debate if nature exists or not. Of course, nature exists (very plausibly). But naturalism want to explain things by

Re: An analogy for Qualia

2012-01-08 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: I don't see any logic or induction in the assertion that the only possible epistemological sources for Homo sapiens must be logic or induction. What other pathway to knowledge do you propose? Well OK there is direct

Re: An analogy for Qualia

2012-01-08 Thread David Nyman
On 8 January 2012 04:57, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Turing was persecuted but his unjust treatment was caused by his privet life and had nothing to do with his scientific ideas. Interesting...I didn't know that Turing was persecuted for his unpopular views about hedging. David

Re: An analogy for Qualia

2012-01-08 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Jan 8, 12:03 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: I don't see any logic or induction in the assertion that the only possible epistemological sources for Homo sapiens must be logic or induction. What other

Re: An analogy for Qualia

2012-01-08 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: But naturalism want to explain things by reducing it to nature or natural law, If you want to explain X you say that X exists because of Y. It's true that Y can be nothing and thus the existence of X is random, but let's