### Re: free will and mathematics

On 06 Jun 2012, at 19:43, R AM wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:30 PM, R AM ramra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Brian Tenneson tenn...@gmail.com wrote: I think people make choices from among available options many times every day and that is why the concept in question

### Re: free will and mathematics

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I agree free-will is silly if it is defined like that. So let us try a less silly definition. So instead of was exactly the same in your definition, we can use was exactly the same from the subject point of view. OK.

### modal logic's meta axiom

Bruno, I've deleted the previous thread, so I've started a new one on modal logic's metaaxiom. IIUC, if I have p (true in a world), and by dint of whatever convoluted steps, I have p --, q then it is also true that []q (q must be true in all worlds)? Could this also be written p --- ? []q

### Re: modal logic's meta axiom

On 07 Jun 2012, at 01:58, Russell Standish wrote: Bruno, I've deleted the previous thread, ? It is possible to delete thread? Including my posts? That should not be possible. so I've started a new one on modal logic's metaaxiom. OK. IIUC, if I have p (true in a world), and by

### Re: free will and mathematics

On 07 Jun 2012, at 10:00, R AM wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I agree free-will is silly if it is defined like that. So let us try a less silly definition. So instead of was exactly the same in your definition, we can use was exactly the

### Re: free will and mathematics

I have started reading Collingwood's An Essay on Metaphysics and I see one definition that seems to be pertinent to this discussion. p. 27 Def. 4. To assume it to suppose by an act of free choice. A person who 'makes an assumption' is making a supposition about which he is aware that he might

### Re: free will and mathematics

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Because he remembers that he was hesitating. Yesterday I have eaten spaghetti, but I could have decide otherwise, I hesitated a lot. OK, for the sake of the argument, let's suppose that you ate spaghetti because that's

### Re: free will and mathematics

On 07 Jun 2012, at 14:15, R AM wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Because he remembers that he was hesitating. Yesterday I have eaten spaghetti, but I could have decide otherwise, I hesitated a lot. OK, for the sake of the argument, let's

### Re: free will and mathematics

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: If he axed you because he has a brain tumor that caused him to see you as an alien monster, we wouldn't hold him culpable. What's with this we business, speak for yourself I certainly would hold him culpable, I don't understand why

### Re: free will and mathematics

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: There is no meaningful difference between will and free will. The will is in the state it is in for a reason or for no reason, but according to Craig Weinberg your free will is in the state it is in for no reason and isn't in the

### Re: free will and mathematics

On 6/7/2012 5:15 AM, R AM wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Because he remembers that he was hesitating. Yesterday I have eaten spaghetti, but I could have decide otherwise, I hesitated a lot. OK, for the sake

### QTI and eternal torment

I’ve just read the following paper : http://istvanaranyosi.net/resources/Should%20we%20fear%20qt%20final.pdf which argues that it is possible to avoid the descent into decrepitude that seems to follow from the quantum theory of immortality (QTI). Aranyosi argues that this is plausible on the

### Re: QTI and eternal torment

Oops - so the new branching diagrams came out wrong. OK they should read U to U or D or C and C to C or U. On Jun 8, 12:11 am, Nick Prince nickmag.pri...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve just read the following paper : http://istvanaranyosi.net/resources/Should%20we%20fear%20qt%20final.pdf which