Hi Craig Weinberg
IMHO Sheldrake is one of the very few who have had the courage to
prove and call materialism bad science. I think he is the vanguard
of good science, which is not blinded by materialism's dogmas.
A necessary revolution is in the making, for one thing because materialism
Hi Craig Weinberg
You're right, I was thinking as a jew might, but if orgot that jesus introduced
the
concept of thought crimes (intentions).
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Hi Craig Weinberg
According to my belief in orthodox Lutheranism (in contrast to
Billy Graham), we cannot decide for Christ, He decides for us.
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Hi Craig Weinberg
Richard rejects the concept of inextended space.
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Hi Craig Weinberg
Yes, there is no calculus for the quality of life.
But we still have to make decisions about it.
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On 1/3/2013 11:47 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Russell Standish
Most scientific publications are based on the 19th century religious cult of
materialism,
which dogmatically rejects mind and spirit for atheistic purposes (not reasons,
there are none).
Do you have any citations showing where
Hi Craig Weinberg
You're welcom to your views, which seem socially based, but
my views are no different than those of many modern physicists.
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On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerb,
Heaven is not part of contingent creation, so your statement
that there is no heaven is illogical or irrelevant.
It was an inference from your statement, This is because things can't be good
everywhere at the same time. After the second
On 1/4/2013 12:05 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
IMHO Sheldrake is one of the very few who have had the courage to
prove and call materialism bad science.
You don't know how to count. The world is full of mystics and the superstitious who don't
even know what materialism means.
Hi Telmo Menezes
Sheldrake, as you might surmise, is totally empirical,
which is the irrefutable tactic to disprove materialism.
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Hi meekerdb
That's so sad. I'm so sorry for your friend.
My personal belief is that prayers are
more effective when the cancer isn't so advanced,
because you are fighting good against evil.
Life against death.
Lem needs tio read Leibniz's theodicy.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Although a brilliant logician, Russell was far left (no doubt a
communist and so
Hi meekerdb
Personally, I find that Leibniz has given me the most satisfactory explanations
for God's actions in this world in his theodicy. Also, his monadology can be
used to
develop your own logical solutions to just about anything.
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1/4/2013
Hi meekerdb
Presumably they have no remorse.
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Subject: Re: What Hell
Hi Roger,
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Rupert Sheldrake - The Morphogenetic Universe
What is space ? There is no such thing as space, there are only fields,
which are mathematical structures.
Fine.
What is matter ? There is no such
Hi meekerdb
I found this on wikipedia:
Russell begins by defining what he means by the term Christian and sets out to
explain why he does not
believe in God and in immortality and why he does not think that Christ was
the best and wisest of men,
the two things he identifies as essential
Hi meekerdb
If there is empirical evidence for the truth of those, I'll accept them.
Sheldrake's work is totally empirical.
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On 1/3/2013 8:34 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/3/2013 5:06 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Bruno,
You might be interested in this!
How about giving us a 500 word summary including an example of it's
application.
Hi Brent,
I guess that you can't be bothered to read it for yourself. OK,
On 1/4/2013 2:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The only miracle that the holy spirit can work with is life,
for it, like God, is life, or represents life.
We do not disagree. ;-)
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1/4/2013
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On 1/4/2013 3:18 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerb,
Heaven is not part of contingent creation, so your statement
that there is no heaven is illogical or irrelevant.
It was an inference from your statement, This is because things can't
be good
On 1/4/2013 3:24 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/4/2013 12:05 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
IMHO Sheldrake is one of the very few who have had the courage to
prove and call materialism bad science.
You don't know how to count. The world is full of mystics and the
superstitious who
On 1/4/2013 3:32 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Stephen P. King
stephe...@charter.net mailto:stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 1/3/2013 10:13 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
Science is a religion by itself.
Why?
Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe
only using physical laws, formulas, equations.
Here is the scheme of His plane.
=.
God : Ten Scientific Commandments.
§ 1. Vacuum: T=0K, E= ∞ ,p= 0, t=∞ .
§ 2. Particles: C/D=pi=3,14, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0,
On 1/4/2013 1:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
On morphic telepathy
Note that Leibniz for good reasons (similar to Kant)
did not consider time and space to be substances,
so the monads all exist as a dust of points in an
inextended domain (to use Descartes' concepts)
which is by definition outside of
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 1/4/2013 3:24 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/4/2013 12:05 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
IMHO Sheldrake is one of the very few who have had the courage to
prove and call materialism bad science.
You
On 1/4/2013 7:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I wrote a review paper for the Quantum Mind 2003 Tuscan, AZ Conference
a decade ago that upon rereading could have well been about morphic
fields. The morphic field would be the non-local consciousness that I
and others then claimed to be a property of
On 1/4/2013 7:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/4/2013 7:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I wrote a review paper for the Quantum Mind 2003 Tuscan, AZ Conference
a decade ago that upon rereading could have well been about morphic
fields. The morphic field would be the non-local consciousness that
On 1/4/2013 7:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/4/2013 7:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I wrote a review paper for the Quantum Mind 2003 Tuscan, AZ Conference
a decade ago that upon rereading could have well been about morphic
fields. The morphic field would be the non-local consciousness that
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 1/4/2013 7:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/4/2013 7:07 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I wrote a review paper for the Quantum Mind 2003 Tuscan, AZ Conference
a decade ago that upon rereading could have well been
Hi Stephen P. King
very few scientists
Sheldrake has done many successful experiments to empirically prove what he
claims.
The results are in his books. Some have been published in New Scientist.
See http://www.sheldrake.org/Research/overview/
[Roger Clough],
On 03 Jan 2013, at 10:17, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 02 Jan 2013, at 13:08, Telmo Menezes wrote:
In my opinion, good and evil are just names we attach to brain
processes we all have in common. These brain processes
STEPHAN: Is it necessary that monads are a substance? Could we think of
them as pure process the product of which is the content of experience
of the monad? Is this formulation antithetical to the definition that
Leibniz gives monads?
ROGER: Keep in mind that Leibniz formulated his ideas
On Friday, January 4, 2013 3:09:11 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
You're right, I was thinking as a jew might, but if orgot that jesus
introduced the
concept of thought crimes (intentions).
I was thinking as a jew might,
lol
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Hi Richard Ruquist
No, morphic fields are not God, they are the tools of God.
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Hi Richard Ruquist
New Scientist has published work by Sheldrake.
But we'll have to wait for the materialist trolls
which decide what can be published die off.
Materialism cannot be justified scientifically.
That journal will be an obsolete curiosity.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
Hi Bruno Marchal
Religion cannot save you, it cannot even make you a better person.
Only God can do that.
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Hi Stephen P. King
L states that all substances are alive, that's how they can communicate.
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Hi Telmo Menezes
All I can find on the web is that DNA only contains instructions to make
various biomolecules such as proteins, RNA, etc. It only works
on the molecular scale; the morphic fields are needed for larger
macrostructrures.
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1/4/2013
On 03 Jan 2013, at 14:47, Craig Weinberg wrote (to Roger Clough):
Personally I believe that Hell and Heaven are metaphors which
extrapolate the ordinary high and low moods of human consciousness
to a super-significance. God is a metaphor in the exact same way -
an algebraic concept of X =
Hi meekerdb
1) Materialists don't have any dogmas. Just ask one of them.
2) quanta are not materials.
3) materialism cannot accept empty space, since it isn't a material.
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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net
Spirit, like life, like God, like faith, like love, and like mind, is not
extended in space
Those objects you mention are extended in space.
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On 03 Jan 2013, at 16:13, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Although a brilliant logician, Russell was far left (no doubt a
communist and so anti-christian). His diatribe against Christianity
is a prime example.
New Scientist has very little credibility in the scientific world.
They are in business to make money and paranormal material sells.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Richard Ruquist
New Scientist has published work by Sheldrake.
But we'll have to
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
So how ever many years ago you there confident that CERN would discover
the Higgs?
About 15, and in not one of those 15 years would I have confidently
predicted that nothing new about the Higgs would be discovered in the next
On 26.12.2012 13:45 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 26 Dec 2012, at 12:45, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I have recently seen a paper on a Physarum machine
A Adamatzky Physarum machine: implementation of a
Kolmogorov-Uspensky machine on a biological substrate
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cs/0703128
On 1/4/2013 9:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
very few scientists
Sheldrake has done many successful experiments to empirically prove what he
claims.
The results are in his books. Some have been published in New Scientist.
Seehttp://www.sheldrake.org/Research/overview/
On 1/4/2013 1:23 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/4/2013 3:18 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/3/2013 11:58 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerb,
Heaven is not part of contingent creation, so your statement
that there is no heaven is illogical or irrelevant.
It was an inference from your statement,
On 1/4/2013 1:24 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/4/2013 3:24 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/4/2013 12:05 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
IMHO Sheldrake is one of the very few who have had the courage to
prove and call materialism bad science.
You don't know how to count. The world is
On 1/4/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Don't take this too much literally.
I have never believed in any notion like charity, or distribution of wealth. It *looks*
nice, but it generates poverty.
Oops, too late! I already gave my kids several hundred thousand dollars in services and
On 1/4/2013 8:31 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Hi Richard,
I will take a look, but I confess to being a bit skeptical of any
substantist theory... How can substances communicate with each other
representationally?
Sorry but I do not understand what this last sentence means. BECs
certainly
On 1/4/2013 8:38 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
1) Materialists don't have any dogmas. Just ask one of them.
Theists have nothing but dogmas and you don't have to ask them, they tell you, e.g. one of
their dogmas is that materialism is wrong, humans have immortal souls, and God will
Hi Roger,
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Telmo Menezes
All I can find on the web is that DNA only contains instructions to make
various biomolecules such as proteins, RNA, etc.
That's enough. Proteins fold into complex 3D structures with very
On Friday, January 4, 2013 12:48:19 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 Stephen P. King step...@charter.net javascript:wrote:
So how ever many years ago you there confident that CERN would discover
the Higgs?
About 15, and in not one of those 15 years would I have
On 1/4/2013 1:24 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:49 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/4/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Don't take this too much literally.
I have never believed in any notion like charity, or
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
On 1/4/2013 8:31 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Hi Richard,
I will take a look, but I confess to being a bit skeptical of any
substantist theory... How can substances communicate with each other
On 1/4/2013 10:41 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
STEPHEN: Is it necessary that monads are a substance? Could we think of
them as pure process the product of which is the content of experience
of the monad? Is this formulation antithetical to the definition that
Leibniz gives monads?
ROGER: Keep in
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