On 09 Mar 2013, at 21:37, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/9/2013 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:58, Stephen P. King wrote (to Alberto Corona):
We are machines, very sophisticated, but machines nonetheless and
doubly so!
I don't think we know that.
Hi Bruno,
Of
On 3/10/2013 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Mar 2013, at 21:37, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/9/2013 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:58, Stephen P. King wrote (to Alberto Corona):
We are machines, very sophisticated, but machines nonetheless and
doubly so!
I don't
On 10 Mar 2013, at 01:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 Mar 2013, at 09:31, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/10/2013 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Mar 2013, at 21:37, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/9/2013 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:58, Stephen P. King wrote (to Alberto
Corona):
We are machines, very
On 3/10/2013 5:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Mar 2013, at 09:31, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/10/2013 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Mar 2013, at 21:37, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/9/2013 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:58, Stephen P. King wrote (to Alberto
On 10 Mar 2013, at 11:26, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/10/2013 5:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Mar 2013, at 09:31, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/10/2013 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Mar 2013, at 21:37, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/9/2013 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar
Occam's Razor, Vacuum and the Scheme of the primary conditions of
existence.
==.
Vacuum is a Negative Euclidean space (-2D) so called Pseudo-
Euclidean space.
It is the simplest reference frame - like the Euclidean space
( 2D).
Now I will put a virtual - ideal particle in this
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:10:04 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 5:53 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:13:38 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:48 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:33:43 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Mar 2013, at 01:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:16:06 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 7:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
A person can resist their both their environment and genetic programming,
And you know this how?
Because identical twins can intentionally lead very different lives. We can
rebel
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:13:55 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 6:23 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
An automatic pilot only controls the plane to the extent that it extends
human intentions to control the plane. The automatic pilot can just as
easily be set to crash the plane into a
Moreover, some people appear to hang tough with life, and do not commit
suicide, despite the intolerable conditions of their life. Which is something
of a puzzle, I suppose. Some people do and some people don't. So maybe its a
biological condition that makes us hang in there?
-Original
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:35:31 AM UTC-4, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
Moreover, some people appear to hang tough with life, and do not commit
suicide, despite the intolerable conditions of their life. Which is
something of a puzzle, I suppose. Some people do and some people don't. So
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
What I am saying though is that even a perfect correlation does not mean
direct causation. Everyone has a brain and a heart, but that doesn't mean
the brain causes the heart.
Up to now whenever we observe a fully functioning
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone except free will deniers know exactly what free will is.
I am NOT a free will denier anymore than I am a burp denier, and I can
assure you I don't know what free will is supposed to mean and neither do
you.
It needs
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:43:38 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:
Everyone except free will deniers know exactly what free will is.
I am NOT a free will denier anymore than I am a burp denier, and I can
assure you I
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:57:16 AM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:
What I am saying though is that even a perfect correlation does not mean
direct causation. Everyone has a brain and a heart, but that doesn't mean
the
On 3/10/2013 1:13 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
If there are some day machines among us which behave just like humans and they engage in
criminal behaviour should they be destroyed? Will there be at least some sort of process
whereby it is determined if the machine is guilty or not, or would
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:51:56 PM UTC+2, advanced...@list.ru wrote:
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:48:10 PM UTC+2, advanced...@list.ru wrote:
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 3:33:28 PM UTC+2, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 3/5/2013 6:23 AM, advanced...@list.ru wrote:
On Tuesday, March 5,
Question- I also thought determinism mean't that you could predict where and
when, a particle could move. But that Werner Heisenberg, said that you could
determine, on, but never the other. Would you say that the universe is
predictable and Heisenberg might be wrong?
Thanks.
Mitch
On 3/10/2013 5:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Mar 2013, at 09:31, Stephen P. King wrote:
OK, what generates or requires the stratification into levels?
To ask a machine about herself (like in self-duplication experiences),
you need to represent the machine in the language available
On 3/10/2013 1:08 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Question- I also thought determinism mean't that you could predict where and when, a
particle could move. But that Werner Heisenberg, said that you could determine, on, but
never the other. Would you say that the universe is predictable and
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:51:35 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 3/10/2013 1:08 PM, spudb...@aol.com javascript: wrote:
Question- I also thought determinism mean't that you could predict where
and when, a particle could move. But that Werner Heisenberg, said that you
could determine, on,
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:16:06 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 7:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
A person can resist their both their environment and genetic programming,
And you know this how?
Because
On 3/10/2013 4:57 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:51:35 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 3/10/2013 1:08 PM, spudb...@aol.com javascript: wrote:
Question- I also thought determinism mean't that you could predict where
and when,
a particle could move. But that
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:59:11 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:16:06 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 7:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
A person can resist
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
No, that would only make sense if people had control of their own actions
independently of your idea of physics. Punishing stones who roll down a hill
is not going to prevent similar rollings from happening in the
On 3/10/2013 5:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:59:11 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
javascript:
wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:16:06 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:11:25 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
No, that would only make sense if people had control of their own
actions
independently of your idea of physics. Punishing stones who
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 8:19:21 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 3/10/2013 5:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:59:11 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:16:06 AM
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
That would mean it is impossible to have
voluntary control of one's actions independently of physics.
No, it means that physics must support voluntary control of one's actions.
Now you
are saying the opposite.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
And you're confusing its complexity with magic.
Magic is the official go-to straw man of the pseudoskeptic. It just means 'I
have no argument so you must be stupid.'
I don't think you understand the word magic.
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:33:52 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
That would mean it is impossible to have
voluntary control of one's actions independently of physics.
No, it means that physics
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:35:37 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
And you're confusing its complexity with magic.
Magic is the official go-to straw man of the pseudoskeptic. It just
means 'I
sorry, that was the wrong link: http://s33light.org/post/44836667412 is the
right one
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 9:35:37 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
And you're confusing its complexity with magic.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
sorry, that was the wrong link: http://s33light.org/post/44836667412 is the
right one
What you don't address in that list is the specific criticism I have made:
1. According to physics as we know it, everything in the
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:39:50 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
sorry, that was the wrong link: http://s33light.org/post/44836667412 is
the
right one
What you don't address in that list is the
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:39:50 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
sorry, that was the wrong link: http://s33light.org/post/44836667412 is
the
By the way:
According to Charle’s law and the consequence of the
third law of thermodynamics as the thermodynamic temperature
of a system approaches absolute zero the volume of particles
approaches zero too. It means the particles must have flat forms.
They must have geometrical form of a
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