On 17 Apr 2013, at 19:09, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
it is disconcerting to learn that after trying to make logical
points with somebody for over a year to find out that there is not
the slightest possibility of logic making any change
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:42:21 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Apr 2013, at 19:09, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 Bruno Marchal mar...@ulb.ac.be javascript:wrote:
it is disconcerting to learn that after trying to make logical points
with somebody for over a year to
On 4/18/2013 8:15 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
It's been proposed that the susceptibility to mutation is itself a
characteristic
subject to natural selection.
If a animal is undergoing stress (too hot,
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
It's been proposed that the susceptibility to mutation is itself a
characteristic subject to natural selection.
If a animal is undergoing stress (too hot, too cold, too thirsty, too
hungry whatever) that means there is
On 4/18/2013 11:09 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
It's been proposed that the susceptibility to mutation is itself a
characteristic subject to natural selection.
If a animal is
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:03:24 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
It comes down to whether the computer has desires and feelings. We
can't be sure whether it does or not.
Why would we even
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:29:29 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
On 4/18/2013 8:15 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 meekerdb meek...@verizon.net javascript: wrote:
It's been proposed that the susceptibility to mutation is itself a
characteristic subject to natural selection.
I came across this today, I am only partway through but so far I have found
it to be a very interesting read. It is quite refreshing to read this
theory from its original source, rather than in some processed and
misinterpreted form in which we so often find it:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
You may be pedantic about the use of anthropomorphic language but I am
not.
It can become distracting / misleading in deeper discussions about the
mechanisms of evolution.
I don't care, anybody who was mislead or
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:32:25 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Telmo Menezes
te...@telmomenezes.comjavascript:
wrote:
You may be pedantic about the use of anthropomorphic language but I am
not.
It can become distracting / misleading in deeper
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:03:24 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
It comes down to whether the computer has desires and feelings. We
can't
Ummm, Craig, you couldn't tell if you were switched off and on unless you
had environmental clues that time when by/shit moved around... I think that
you are being a bit specist here. Computers are very much conscious, just
not self-aware in any way relatable to our experience of such.
On Thu,
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:44:31 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Ummm, Craig, you couldn't tell if you were switched off and on unless you
had environmental clues that time when by/shit moved around... I think that
you are being a bit specist here. Computers are very much conscious,
I have been using the term 'aesthetic' a lot lately in specifying the
qualitative aspects of consciousness, and I feel like it clarifies one of
the core issues. The Hard Problem of Consciousness is confusing to people
whose mindset is innately compelled to define consciousness as a collection
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:30:02 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:03:24 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Craig Weinberg
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