Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread meekerdb
On 7/17/2013 10:13 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 18 July 2013 14:34, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/17/2013 8:48 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 17 July 2013 05:37, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: I think functionalism (or

Re: We are all naturally racists. Political correctness is likely to get you killed.

2013-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Jul 2013, at 22:19, Richard Ruquist wrote: My chickens are racist. That is, being free range, they tend to hang out in clusters where color is the common denominator. That suggests to me that racism is a natural phenomenon. Richard Racism or xenophobia are natural, yes, but that does

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:45 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote: @ Telmo Free markets assume rational agents performing symmetrical transactions for their one self-interest. What we have in reality is a centralised secret bureaucracy with unchecked economical and regulatory

Leibniz's Self and the Penrose Twistor Demon.

2013-07-18 Thread Roger Clough
Leibniz's Self and the Penrose Twistor Demon.: the necessity for a wave-collapsing, nonlocal Self in twistor theory Therre is hot vs cold and there is dead, even impossible, information vs living thought, which is being. While Maxwell's Demon can separate hot from cold particles, here we

Re: We are all naturally racists. Political correctness is likely to get you killed.

2013-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I can not resist to say something. THat something is innate or natural means that whatever to do with it must take into accout that this is innate or natural, no matter if this is morally positive or negative. Something natural can not be prohibited . Only can be regulated. Take revenge for

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:55:36 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:04:46 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013 2:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:44:20 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013 1:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:34:19 AM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/17/2013 8:48 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 17 July 2013 05:37, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:27:14 AM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/17/2013 10:13 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 18 July 2013 14:34, meekerdb mee...@verizon.net javascript: wrote: On 7/17/2013 8:48 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 17 July 2013 05:37, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:13:59 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: On 18 July 2013 14:34, meekerdb meek...@verizon.net javascript: wrote: On 7/17/2013 8:48 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 17 July 2013 05:37, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: On Monday, July

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:55:36 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar

Consciousness and computationalism

2013-07-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Jul 2013, at 11:08, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 16 Jul 2013, at 17:29, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
the asimilation sound-shape applies also to the letters: the letters K and I of KIKI have a lot of peaks, while B O U and A of BOUBA have more rounded edges. the forms with Sharp edges are more aggressive, and this is know in design. For example the rounded edges of the Apple products, that is

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-18 Thread meekerdb
On 7/18/2013 2:27 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Also, it's a funny moment in History to pretend that giving this much power to governments does not have consequences. What if the economy is saved but we end up living under a modern global Stasi? This sounded like conspiracy theory stuff a few weeks

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread chris peck
Hi Alberto I wonder if the phoneme for 'ki' is represented by jagged letters in non Latin based alphabets? --- Original Message --- From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com Sent: 19 July 2013 2:03 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction the

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
If the alphabet is phonethic , I guess so, because the inventors of the alphabets also had these innate associations. 2013/7/19 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com Hi Alberto I wonder if the phoneme for 'ki' is represented by jagged letters in non Latin based alphabets? --- Original

RE: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread chris peck
Hi Alberto But alphabets are not phonemic are they? And some alphabets are curvy (Thai) where as others are very angular (Chinese) Even in Latin based alphabets there are going to be difficulties with your view I think. The 'c' in 'circle' is essy and soft. But the 'c' in 'cut' is sharp and

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread meekerdb
On 7/18/2013 4:42 PM, chris peck wrote: Hi Alberto But alphabets are not phonemic are they? And some alphabets are curvy (Thai) where as others are very angular (Chinese) Even in Latin based alphabets there are going to be difficulties with your view I think. The 'c' in 'circle' is essy

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 18 July 2013 23:20, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: I did use the term rational perhaps inappropriately. I meant that some aesthetic choices have evolutionary utility and others not. Nevertheless, all aesthetic choices must be determined by the physics of our brain, unless they

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-18 Thread Alberto G. Corona
That exist an association does not means that this is a mathematical topological isomorphism in the brain of the humans shaped by genes between the space of shapes and the space of sounds in the form of fourier derivates. Right? Things are not that way. An association is an association, so

RE: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-18 Thread chris peck
@ Telmo Hi Telmo The key word here is leveraged. Ultimately, this level of leveraging is only possible because the Fed can create money out of thin air. You'll have to elaborate on that. As far as I am aware the banks were leveraged by money currently in circulation. Loans made by insurance