As someone who voted for Al Gore in 2000 (he liked hydrogen cars, what can I
say?) I don't believe it was corruption that won Bush jr. his election, but the
idiocies of the electoral process. Hanging chads or accusations of Deibold
voting machines not withstanding. Democracy, is not a thing
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
I was correcting your mischaracterization of two democratically elected
and popular leaders who were overthrown in bloody CIA backed coups and
replaced by fascist dictators
Yes Chris, the CIA staged those coups, but some
And yet the greatest mass murderer of all history remains Genghis Khan. lest
we forget. The Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan murdered so many people that
there was a corresponding measurable drop in humanities global carbon
footprint, because so many people were wiped out that huge areas reverted
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
you cannot prove that things in the brain happen because of some
proximate definable and identifiable cause or otherwise they must therefore
result by a completely random process.
Bullshit. Axioms don't need proof, and the
My B in law posited, what moves the cursor, using a pc as an analogy of mind?
Of course the cursor can be programmed to move and act, by a program, but then
who made the programmer? Leibniz and other thinkers may have asked, who made
God? Terrific question. My sense of things is the use of an
Citeren meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 8/25/2013 9:36 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
If I think that: With hindsight 9/11 was a good thing to have
happened, it ended up exposing the fascist Neo-Cons for what they
were.
That's sort of like saying it's good that the Nazi's killed all those
Morality is an ill defined concept, you can just as well invoke
religion. I never appeal to any notion of morality, when I say that
something is good, then I have some specific outcome in mind. I think
I did explain that.
An alien visiting the Earth may well conclude that the right thing to
And I have better ways to allocate my time than that.
Coming from a cuckoo clock/roulette wheel... LOL.
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On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
you
Hi Saibal
When you say something is good you have some concept of morality in mind
whether you like it or not. Otherwise comments like 'this is good' or 'that is
good' are meaningless gibberish. In your case it is very obviously
consequentialism you have in mind because you are attempting to
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On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
I was correcting your mischaracterization of two democratically elected and
popular leaders who were overthrown in bloody CIA backed coups and
On 8/27/2013 3:55 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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*Subject:* Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
Chris,
No I don't need to invoke morality, the price I pay for that is to have
to explain explicity what I mean by a good outcome, what measure I
choose here to determine this, etc.
9/11 was a good thing to have happened, despite the perpetrators not
having good intentions, i.e. the
Hi Saibal
No I don't need to invoke morality, the price I pay for that is to have
to explain explicity what I mean by a good outcome, what measure I
choose here to determine this, etc.
Saibal, by using the terms 'good'/'bad' and 'right'/'wrong' you can not help
but invoke morality because
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