On 3 Oct 2013, at 11:12 am, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz
Is there something wrong with quantum indeterminacy?
Apart from the fact the MWI removes it? And that that is the point of MWI?
And that probability questions in MWI are notoriously thorny?
This is why
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 01 Oct 2013, at 17:09, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 30 Sep 2013, at 14:05, Telmo Menezes wrote to Craig:
The comp assumption that computations have
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The origin of the indeterminacies is the random use of personal pronouns
with no clear referents by Bruno Marchal such that all questions like what
is the probability I will do this or that? become meaningless.
?
Which word
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I have always had trouble with the MWI version of this - it's generally
hard to believe that the person who is having these experiences will
become two people who have had different experiences (to avoid any
personal pronouns in those
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 , LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
What question about personal identity is indeterminate? There is a 100%
chance that the Helsinki man will turn into the Moscow man because the
Helsinki Man saw Moscow, and a 100% chance the Helsinki Man will turn into
the Washington Man
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 , LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
What question about personal identity is indeterminate? There is a
100% chance that the Helsinki man will turn into the Moscow man because the
Helsinki Man saw Moscow,
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:30:13 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
I think that evil continues to flourish, precisely because science has
not
integrated privacy into an authoritative worldview.
On 4 October 2013 05:59, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 , LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
What question about personal identity is indeterminate? There is a
100% chance that the Helsinki man will turn into the Moscow man because the
Helsinki Man saw Moscow, and a
On 4 October 2013 06:28, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.comwrote:
You were kind enough to let the list know, along with Chris Peck, that the
flaw in the reasoning concerning step 3 of the UDA is it sucks.
Unless you guys backtrack and quit abusing the fact that Bruno's
Does anyone know any phenomena in nature or science that duplicates
the behavior of Cellular Automata? Does cell biology do the tasks of
CA, orbis this merely, a mathematical abstraction? Does anything in
physics come to mind, when refering to CA?
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From: Bruno
On 4 October 2013 10:38, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Does anyone know any phenomena in nature or science that duplicates the
behavior of Cellular Automata? Does cell biology do the tasks of CA, orbis
this merely, a mathematical abstraction? Does anything in physics come to
mind, when
Hi Liz / pgc
If I have been abusive to you or Bruno then I apologize without hesitation. If
you would show where I have been abusive though I would appreciate that,
because at the moment I regard the suggestion as low and mean spirited.
I have made my points and been misrepresented,
On Friday, October 4, 2013 4:10:02 AM UTC+10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:30:13 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think that evil continues to flourish, precisely because science has
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 4:59:17 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
On 10/1/2013 11:49 PM, Pierz wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:15:01 PM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
On 10/1/2013 9:56 PM, Pierz wrote:
Yes, I understand that to be Chalmer's main point. Although, if the
qualia can be
On 3 October 2013 10:33, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/2/2013 5:15 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 1 October 2013 23:31, Pierz pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe. It would be a lot more profound if we definitely *could* reproduce
the brain's behaviour. The devil is in the detail
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 7:36:10 PM UTC-4, Pierz wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2013 4:10:02 AM UTC+10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 9:30:13 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think
There are plenty of examples, but it will take too long to extract the
literature. For example, the Navier-Stokes equations describing fluid
flow can be simulated via an appropriate hex tiling (close packed
spheres) CA (or generalised CA). I've seen people give examples of CAs
simulating the
On 3 October 2013 14:40, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
The argument is simply summarised thus: it is impossible even for God
to make a brain prosthesis that reproduces the I/O behaviour but has
different qualia. This is a proof of comp, provided that brain physics
is computable,
On 10/3/2013 4:36 PM, Pierz wrote:
The universe doesn't seem to be too fussed about immense and inescapable
redundancy.
Of course the universe doesn't care when the immense and inescapable redundancy is in our
model of it.
Brent
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On 10/3/2013 5:07 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
You seem to be agreeing with Craig that each neuron alone is conscious.
The experiment relates to replacement of neurons which play some part
in consciousness. The 1% remaining neurons are part of a system which
will notice that the qualia are
On 10/3/2013 4:53 PM, Pierz wrote:
On Thursday, October 3, 2013 4:59:17 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
On 10/1/2013 11:49 PM, Pierz wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:15:01 PM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
On 10/1/2013 9:56 PM, Pierz wrote:
Yes, I understand that to be
On 4 October 2013 11:56, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Liz / pgc
If I have been abusive to you or Bruno then I apologize without
hesitation. If you would show where I have been abusive though I would
appreciate that, because at the moment I regard the suggestion as low and
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