Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

2018-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 Nov 2018, at 20:13, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_machine > > Le lun. 5 nov. 2018 19:28, Quentin Anciaux > a écrit : > > > Le lun. 5 nov. 2018 19:17, John Clark

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 7 Nov 2018, at 21:40, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 9:31:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 6 Nov 2018, at 10:58, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 2:52:23 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> On

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

2018-11-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 3:10:15 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 5 Nov 2018, at 18:05, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:59, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 5:23:11 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 7 Nov 2018, at 21:40, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 9:31:38 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 6 Nov 2018, at 10:58, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday,

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

2018-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 Nov 2018, at 18:05, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 3:47:58 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 1 Nov 2018, at 19:59, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 1:44:19 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 1,

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

2018-11-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 3:14:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 5 Nov 2018, at 19:26, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 11:14:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 11:41, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> But I claim an

Re: Measuring a system in a superposition of states vs in a mixed state

2018-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:22, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 9:27:31 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 4 Nov 2018, at 22:02, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:33:10 PM UTC, jessem wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Oct

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

2018-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 Nov 2018, at 14:48, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:39 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >>> No Turing machine can solve the halting problem. You are right on this. > >>> But an oracle can, or a machine with infinite speed can. > > >>If such a

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

2018-11-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 Nov 2018, at 19:26, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 11:14:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 11:41, Philip Thrift > wrote: >> >> >> But I claim an experience-processing computer (like our brain) is not >> super-Turing, but is

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-08 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > > *for consciousness, which needs a relation between a brain, and truth.* > Hallucinations exist. > > *That needed truth needs also to be independent of the brain.* > Hallucinations are not independent of the brain. > *Information

Re: Towards Conscious AI Systems (a symposium at the AAAI Stanford Spring Symposium 2019)

2018-11-08 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 8:36:17 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > >> *> Alan Turing used his material brain, yes, but that has nothing to do >> with the fact that he gave a definition of computation* [...] >> > >

Re: Measuring a system in a superposition of states vs in a mixed state

2018-11-08 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 11:04:20 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 6 Nov 2018, at 12:22, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 at 9:27:31 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 4 Nov 2018, at 22:02, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday,