Re: Art That Reminds Me to Say No to the Doctor

2014-02-05 Thread Chris de Morsella
Fascinating shadow projections. Conjures up thoughts in me about the holographic universe. On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:25 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: more http://rollership.tumblr.com/post/75567004763 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

RE: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-05 Thread Chris de Morsella
Liz - The pace of what we are discovering about the brain makes everything we know about it a moving goal post; case in point the key role it now appears astrocytes or glial cells play in the formation of memories http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/27913/title/Glial-cel

Re: Indian physicist resolved Black Hole paradox much before Hawking

2014-02-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
Perhaps, but also true that most ALS sufferers do not get such attention media adulation. On Thursday, February 6, 2014 1:49 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Hawking gets the attention because he has ALS. It's not a tradeoff many would want to make. -- You received this message because

Re: Indian physicist resolved Black Hole paradox much before Hawking

2014-02-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
that Mitra is right, Hawking is rejecting Penrose's theorem on the grounds that it doesn't consider quantum effects. Thanks for the clarification about the subtle distinction between the reasoning in Hawking's recent short paper and Mitra's earlier theory.    Brent On 2/6/2014 12:45 PM, Chris de

Re: Indian physicist resolved Black Hole paradox much before Hawking

2014-02-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Indian physicist resolved Black Hole paradox much before Hawking On 7 February 2014 11:17, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com

Re: Eidetic memory and the comp hypothesis

2014-02-07 Thread Chris de Morsella
vaster numbers of vertices. Chris Bruno On 06 Feb 2014, at 07:59, Chris de Morsella wrote: Liz – The pace of what we are discovering about the brain makes everything we know about it a moving goal post; case in point the key role it now appears astrocytes or glial cells play in the formation

RE: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-08 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:01 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Suicide Words God and Ideas The invention of language was obviously of great benefit to the

RE: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-09 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:34 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas On 08 Feb 2014, at 20:06, Chris de Morsella wrote

Re: Edging closer to nuclear fusion...

2014-02-12 Thread Chris de Morsella
Let's check back in 50 years on how that turns out :) From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: Edging closer to nuclear fusion... apparently.

Re: Edging closer to nuclear fusion...

2014-02-12 Thread Chris de Morsella
fusion... Yeah, exactly. Meanwhile we already have a fusion reactor up and running, should anyone want to use it. On 13 February 2014 12:10, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Let's check back in 50 years on how that turns out :) From

Re: Edging closer to nuclear fusion...

2014-02-12 Thread Chris de Morsella
: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Edging closer to nuclear fusion... On 13 February 2014 12:44, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: We all do use it already -- even as we burn the fossil fuel banked in coal seams and gas oil bearing formations, all of which ultimately

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-13 Thread Chris de Morsella
Ground water contamination levels at the sampled well site of 54,000Bq/ liter NHK http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20140213_22.html , Feb. 13, 2014: Record cesium level in Fukushima plant groundwater - [Tepco] says water samples taken from a newly-dug well contained the highest levels

RE: How does acceleration curve space? Can anyone provide an answer?

2014-02-13 Thread Chris de Morsella
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:56 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How does acceleration curve space? Can anyone provide an answer? The

Re: Cool Cuttlefish footage

2014-02-14 Thread Chris de Morsella
Will they have time or will they fall victim to the great extinction event that we have been causing (the extinction rate is currently 10,000 times the background level, and this is due to human factors). The ocean webs of life are collapsing across the globe n a most stark and alarming manner

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-19 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ghib...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:02 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Thursday, February 13,

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-20 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:15 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On 20 February 2014 00:20,

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-21 Thread Chris de Morsella
Based on reading the white papers on the LFTR design proposals (that I have been able to see) they all seem to  incorporate a fail-safe (lower melting point) plug that will melt if the reactor begins to overheat (and well before it melts down) and the liquid salt/fuel mix will rapidly drain

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-22 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb On 2/21/2014 2:27 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: I am in agreement but I am guessing humankind does not yet possess a working LTFR that could power a large city. Nor, is a MSR (molten salt

RE: Turning the tables on the doctor

2014-02-23 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:37 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning the tables on the doctor I wouldn't ride in the damn thing! -- Larry Niven, The theory and

RE: Exxon CEO Joins Lawsuit Against Fracking Project Because It Will Devalue His $5 Million Property

2014-02-23 Thread Chris de Morsella
Ahhh. the hypocrisy of it all. It's actually funny in a macabre way. http://ecowatch.com/2014/02/21/exxon-ceo-joins-lawsuit-concerned-fracking-de values-property/ Exxon CEO Joins Lawsuit Against Fracking Project Because It Will Devalue His $5 Million Property As ExxonMobil's CEO, it's Rex

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-24 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark There are many reasons why nuclear power is dead in the water. I think the main reason is that reactors got too big too fast and their design has been frozen for nearly half a

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-25 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 1:21 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating Solar cells are getting cheaper and easier

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-25 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb On 2/24/2014 11:24 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: That would certainly be true if there is no sense of urgency to get the job done, but we got to the moon in less than 9 years once we

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-25 Thread Chris de Morsella
There is a whole sector of biofuels devoted to various interesting microorganisms -- some that have also been genetically engineered - to harness them in order to produce chemicals, including fuels and important pre-curser chemicals (Butanol being one)

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-25 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Its only a pipe dream if it doesn't work. Its all lies and exaggeration if a technology if it does not. For decades, people all over the world have worked on energy systems to replace the

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-25 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:19 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating Point taken. But I know that

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-25 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:23 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating Hydro IS solar. How do you think the water

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-26 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:22 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:39 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:53

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: The prices for PV keeps coming down as well; in fact it has dropped an amazing 99% in the past quarter century. That's very nice, but even if the price dropped to zero it wouldn't be enough to completely take over from nuclear and fossil fuel

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
It produces 4X the energy it needs just from the solar PV on the roofs of its buildings.. Isn't it amazing what you can accomplish with such dilute sources of energy. I include the link because the pictures are pretty cool, and illustrate what a solar city could look like.

Re: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
-price.  The cost per kilowatt -- for complete installed systems -- is starting to get close to parity with the cost for electricity from coal. In ten years from now solar will be far less expensive than coal electricity. -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
even if the price dropped to zero it wouldn't be enough to completely take over from nuclear and fossil fuel because it would still be too dilute and too unreliable and unpredictable for many, perhaps most, applications. So say you. and yet just this year alone - 2014 - it is projected

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
Well if you can store 61 times more energy, that just means there's room for improvement in the existing batteries... Good news, if nature was able to do it so can we I hope. Zinc-air batteries, which combine atmospheric oxygen and zinc metal in a liquid alkaline electrolyte to generate

RE: Is information physical?

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 05:01:51PM -0500, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Not to be a dick, but is not information or data perforations, and pulses, in mater and energy? This is how we recognize information from background noise, correct? Is there a third state of reality that is not matter or energy?

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:42 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On 28 February 2014 06:43, John Clark

If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-27 Thread Chris de Morsella
Personally the notion that all that exists is comp information - encoded on what though? - Is not especially troubling for me. I understand how some cling to a fundamental material realism; after all it does seem so very real. However when you get right down to it all we have is measured values

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Well if you can store 61 times more energy, that just means there's room for improvement in the existing batteries... Good news, if nature was able to do it so can we I hope. Zinc-air batteries, [...] offers about twice the gravimetric density Who

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
If it's all math, then where does math come from? Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it is a fact that 1+1=2. Somehow I do not find that satisfying; in what way and by what evidence does this occur? Especially - as I had posited if math is the

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
Or it comes from our conceptualizing the world as consisting of distinct objects and counting them, c.f. William S. Cooper The Origin of Reason and Lakoff and Nunez Where Mathematics Comes From. In that case math would emerge from our conscious minds -- growing out of our making sense of the

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR On 1 March 2014 04:59, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: It does. You cannot fake electricity. You cannot fake electric current. If you are depending on solar power for 20% of your electricity

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
Personally the notion that all that exists is comp information - encoded on what though? - Is not especially troubling for me. I understand how some cling to a fundamental material realism; after all it does seem so very real. However when you get right down to it all we have is measured

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:34 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:42 PM,

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edgar L. Owen Chris, For a computational universe to even exist it must be consistently logico-mathematical. If it weren't the inconsistencies would cause it to tear itself apart and thus

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-02-28 Thread Chris de Morsella
On 1 March 2014 18:16, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: If it's all math, then where does math come from? Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it is a fact that 1+1=2. Somehow I do not find that satisfying; in what way and by what evidence does

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:23 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from? On 01 Mar 2014, at 06:16, Chris de

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: Who cares about gravimetric density? Evidently you don't; that much is clear. The automobile

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:00 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating Since this thread is about Fukushima, can I

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 3:18 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating Occupy was a Soros funded org

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
leak, in the American Southwest, at the plutonium waste storage facility. -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:39 pm Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 3:38 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany You need to power all civilization, once the

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 10:30 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Chris de Morsella

RE: The Dalai Lama's Ski Trip

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From The Dalai Lama http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2014/02/dalai_lama_at_a_santa _fe_ski_resort_tells_waitress_the_meaning_of_life.single.html 's Ski Trip: The Slate article is a pretty funny read this is its final passage; which I think brings a certain perspective to everything

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 6:14 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On 2 March 2014 14:01, Chris de Morsella cdemorse

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 1:31 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from? On 3/1/2014 12:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
in the reality of physical limits on our small blue green dot then there is not much I can do to help you. Chris -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: 01-Mar-2014 20:01:11 + Subject: RE: The solar

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:44 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from? On 01 Mar 2014, at 07:16, Chris de

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Speaking of which, Heinlein would have loved this: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140302.html I grok that One of the best words ever invented* - IMO -thank you Heinlein. Chris

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:14 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On 3/1/2014 10:59 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-01 Thread Chris de Morsella
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:22 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from? On 3/1/2014 7:54 PM,

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:37 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from? On 2 March 2014 20:28, Chris de Morsella cdemorse

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR On 2 March 2014 21:05, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree that it does not reach the level of an explanation, but am toying with how it could be a mechanism by which

RE: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
:16, Chris de Morsella wrote: If it's all math, then where does math come from? Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it is a fact that 1+1=2. Somehow I do not find that satisfying; in what way and by what evidence does this occur? Especially - as I had

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Platonist Guitar Cowboy Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 4:51 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement comes to

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 7:39 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On 3 March 2014 15:33, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com

RE: The solar example of a town in Germany

2014-03-02 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 8:26 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On 3/2/2014 8:20 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote: From

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-03 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: With power stations you don't need to worry about the same factors (energy density etc) but you do need

RE: [foar] Amoeba's Secret, by Bruno Marchal available from Kindle store

2014-03-04 Thread Chris de Morsella
Thanks. I will look for the paperback version towards the end of this month. Chris From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:16 AM To: f...@googlegroups.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject:

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-04 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:40 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On 5 March 2014 09:56, spudboy...@aol.com

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-05 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-05 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: There are over 7 billion people on the planet, never before in the history of the Earth has a large animal (over

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 1:17 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating This is certainly one subject on which I

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 10:48 AM Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: they

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:55 AM Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
, but the efficiency with which we heat, cool and light our buildings (both residential, industrial and commercial) -- This is a case of apples and oranges. Chris -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:43 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: they seem to mostly have a religious belief in free market capitalism, despite there never having been such a thing Actually there has been, the black-market. Really I am laughing out loud -- for real. John I would love to

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: spudboy...@aol.com spudboy...@aol.com Chris, at some point we must ask basic questions, such as, do the toilets flush, and do the lights come on? We are not, I believe, speaking here about Bruno's UDA, versus Tegmark's MUH, but how well our

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-06 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 9:39 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On 3/6/2014 10:40 AM, John Clark wrote:

RE: Vehiculus automobilius

2014-03-07 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig Weinberg Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:46 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Vehiculus automobilius If the doctor became more ambitious, and decided to replace a species

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-07 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 1:20 PM Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-07 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com extinction rate is already 10,000 times the average background rate; Chris, this is an artificial rate, as useless, except to Greens, as events cause extinctions, not

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-08 Thread Chris de Morsella
endure and will not last. We either adapt or we die; it really is as stark as that. Chris de Morsella John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-08 Thread Chris de Morsella
. that Ayn Rand blood stew smothered in a rich topping of greed. Chris de Morsella John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-08 Thread Chris de Morsella
If only we all thought like you, the world would be fixed, eh? Or, if the climate change doesn't fit all the models, that have been proposed by the IPCC, then all we have to do is wait? Come on spudboy – or whatever your real name is – do you really believe your own emotional outburst?

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2014-03-09 Thread Chris de Morsella
I am waiting for Russell to give the thumbs up on the print version - I still prefer print for some things like books. Cheers, Chris From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Platonist Guitar Cowboy Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 3:59 PM

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-09 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Liz, you are doing the same thing, Chris does, which, when confronted with someone who disagrees with their world view, hurls snarky accusations. This is not a good thing, but

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-09 Thread Chris de Morsella
de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: I not only know they're very violent I know why they're violent. If government made chocolate bars illegal the demand for chocolate bars would not end and organizations would come into existence to fill that demand. And the underground Hershey candy

RE: The way the future was

2014-03-09 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ghib...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:31 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The way the future was On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:09:32 PM UTC, Liz R wrote: On 9

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-09 Thread Chris de Morsella
Yah. Its way too late. You have gotten me reflecting on the old saying by Tip Oneil, who said All politics is local. I would paraphrase this and say all politics is personel. I can observe two things, despite my diminished capacity. One is that the climate is not behaving at all like you

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-10 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:47 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating I understood, what you were going

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-10 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Since I have been on the list longer then you I ask are you here to enforce progressive ideology? If you're pissed off, that's not my fault, that is your own. I was just

RE: The way the future was

2014-03-10 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Platonist Guitar Cowboy Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 6:14 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The way the future was On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:59 AM, chris peck

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
into the mirror. Chris On 11 March 2014 15:59, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com Since I have been on the list longer then you I ask are you here to enforce progressive

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
your particular brand of Ayn Rand addled ideology?  Chris -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:39 am Subject: RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating   From

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
a search for truth, and sometimes it's about a search for a research grant.  Scientists ARE observing and documenting the rate of extinction silly fellow. You do not get to choose your own facts, spudboy (or whomever you are). Chris -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
accepting that you are wrong about this. Chris -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Mar 11, 2014 2:41 pm Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating         From: spudboy

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: spudboy...@aol.com spudboy...@aol.com I hopefully, wouldn't think that there's a tea party or libertarian view of science. The libertarians, unless I am wrong, are 100% pro-science, many atheists, and all that. Your 1 extinction rate claim appears

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: LizR lizj...@gmail.com Well, a-Popin is a bit of a giveaway :-) Amen... and praise be :) On 12 March 2014 12:14, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote: From: spudboy...@aol.com spudboy...@aol.com

Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
cannot partake of you Green Rites Church, but rest assured,I do read the literature. Are you a bible thumper? Certainly helps explain your gross ignorance of the scientific method. Chris -Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com To: everything-list everything-list

RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating

2014-03-11 Thread Chris de Morsella
-Original Message- From: Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com From: spudboy...@aol.com spudboy...@aol.com Yes indeed! And the acid rain is a-pouring down, and everyone's face is a-sizzlin and a-popin from the sulphur, and the Ozone hole is a-lettin in the gamma rays, and the BP

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