Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2008-12-23 Thread Kim Jones
Bruno, things are starting to hang together in my new digital brain (bright yellow) you wrote the plan: --- A) UDA (Universal Dovetailer Argument) 1) I explain that if you are a machine, you are already immaterial. --- Fine. This thought is merely

Re: Machines was:Kim 2.1

2008-12-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 26/12/2008, at 5:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Dec 2008, at 08:05, Abram Demski wrote: Bruno, I agree with Gunther about the two types of machine. The broader machine is any system that can be logically described-- a system that is governed by rules and has a definite

The Precipice

2008-12-25 Thread Kim Jones
The Day The Earth Stood Still - remake version in cinemas now Just saw it - at the very first session at 9.30 AM. This film is a whole lot better than the reviews make out and a whole lot better than I expected. Keanu Reeves is Keanu as usual and only acts with his left eyebrow, but this

Re: Machines was:Kim 2.1

2008-12-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 27/12/2008, at 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: nd sometimes, even that is not enough, and you have to climb on the higher infinities. I think Kim was asking for an example of well- defined notions which are not effective. The existence of such non effective objects is not obvious at all

Re: KIM 2.2 and 2.3

2008-12-29 Thread Kim Jones
On 30/12/2008, at 9:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Kim, Still OK to continue? You are ready? I am good to go! Let me sum up so far. I suggest you look at the UDA slide. Have teleported it to my screen... For those who don't have it, and want follow: it is the PDF slide of

Re: Machines was:Kim 2.1

2008-12-30 Thread Kim Jones
On 28/12/2008, at 12:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: With Everett everything becomes clearer: nature does not collapse the wave, and thus, does not provide any examples of a machine generating truly random events. Randomness appears in the mind of the multiplied observers, exactly like in the

Re: KIM 2.2 and 2.3

2008-12-30 Thread Kim Jones
On 31/12/2008, at 5:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Dec 2008, at 02:22, Kim Jones wrote: I am good to go! I suspect this is not english :) It isn't. It's American ;-) (ducks quickly, like George Bush the other day and the shoes) Military talk - if you have seen the movie

Re: KIM 2.2 and 2.3

2008-12-31 Thread Kim Jones
On 01/01/2009, at 11:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I have also a theory according to which british humour is obtined by taking classical logic seriously enough. The comical effect comes from the fact that in the real work classical logic NEVER works. The Court Jester's First Law:

Smolin's View of Time

2009-01-01 Thread Kim Jones
Edge Question 2009: What Will Change Everything? http://www.edge.org/q2009/q09_9.html#smolin What do we think about this? Smolin seems to disagree with most of what we are on about on this list. My mind remains open in all directions, particularly as Smolin appears to be enjoying

Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-03 Thread Kim Jones
Bruno, In this step, one of me experiences (or actually does not experience) the delay prior to reconstitution. In Step 2, it was proven to me that I cannot know that any extra time (other than the 4 minutes necessary transmission interval) has elapsed between my annihilation and

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Kim Jones
On 10/01/2009, at 5:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I admire too. Kim is courageous. Well, for the tenacity we will see :) Gee thanks Doctor! I'll try not disappoint you. At the moment I am devoting an egregious amount of time to searching for employment as my ability to sit and cogitate

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-10 Thread Kim Jones
On 10/01/2009, at 6:37 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: The question is how is the simulated observer made conscious of the passage of (simulated) time. If you just look a momentary machine states, ignoring their causal/temporal relations, how will they create the consciousness of time in

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-18 Thread Kim Jones
On 18/01/2009, at 4:38 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: I have no doubt that digital mechanism and materialism are incompatible, though. Is that because, under materialism, consciousness depends on causal links? Brent supernatural causal links enter the hand wavers Kim

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 19/01/2009, at 9:58 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Le 18-janv.-09, à 11:32, Kim Jones a écrit : On 18/01/2009, at 4:38 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: I have no doubt that digital mechanism and materialism are incompatible, though. Is that because, under materialism, consciousness depends

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-20 Thread Kim Jones
On 21/01/2009, at 6:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Jan 2009, at 13:56, Kim Jones wrote: But Brent was momentarily speaking of materialism - materialism doesn't acknowledge any form of comp immateriality except according to the (probably) false mind/body dualism, where the mind

Star Larvae Hypothesis

2009-01-20 Thread Kim Jones
--- Creativity usually means finding a way of being right by being wrong. Being right by being right is not creativity. It merely offers what is already understood. - Kim Jones Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@mac.com Web: http://web.mac.com/kmjcommp/Plenitude_Music

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-21 Thread Kim Jones
On 22/01/2009, at 3:50 AM, Günther Greindl wrote: Kim, the uncomputability of this issue. Why should the mind be limited to the computable? Clearly it is not. So you deny Step 1 again? You say no to the doctor? In fact I have 'multiple personality disorder' - from Thursday to

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-22 Thread Kim Jones
2009, at 05:46, Kim Jones wrote: OK. But keep in mind that consciousness is unique in the sense of knowing that it cannot know its Turing emulability level (yet can bet). Footnote - (parenthetical digression): I know the above thought is native to your schema, and up to here

Re: KIM 2.3 (was Re: Time)

2009-01-23 Thread Kim Jones
On 24/01/2009, at 4:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Have you find the time to take a look on UN-16 UN-24 in http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/bxlthesis/Volume1CC/4z1_1sansp.pdf After all, you know some french, isn't it? Take it easy, I will explain all this to you, beginning from zero.

Quantum Teleportation Breakthrough

2009-01-24 Thread Kim Jones
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090122141137.htm cheers, Kim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: COMP, Quantum Logic and Gleason's Theorem

2009-01-30 Thread Kim Jones
On 31/01/2009, at 3:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I've also tried to dig through both Bruno's thesis with the help of google translator. It works for a while but soon one hits a wall with a difficult sentence/paragraph which is hard to understand even if it stands as the author inteded -

Templeton Foundation

2009-02-04 Thread Kim Jones
The Templeton Foundation gives sizeable grants to projects for reconciling science and religion, and awards a yearly prize of two million dollars to a philosopher or scientist whose work highlights the spiritual dimension of scientific progress. Go for it, Bruno! If Paul Davies can do it

Re: The Seventh Step (Preamble)

2009-02-04 Thread Kim Jones
Bruno, our posts just crossed each other. I'm still here and listening and thinking hard. We are busy, as you say, but listening and thinking about the realities has to be part of that, so I ensure that I set aside time to follow your reasoning. I may translate part of the Brussels thesis

Bruno's Brussels Thesis English Version Chap 1 (trial translation)

2009-02-04 Thread Kim Jones
Trans. Kim Jones (extract only) 1.1 Mechanist Philosophies 1.1.1 Different types of Mechanism I distinguish the following mechanist hypotheses: BEHAVIOURIST MECHANISM Some machines can behave as thinking beings (living, conscious etc.) (BEH-MEC) STRONG MECHANISM Some machines can think

Re: Bruno's Brussels Thesis English Version Chap 1 (trial translation)

2009-02-05 Thread Kim Jones
? Thanks. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Trans. Kim Jones (extract only) 1.1 Mechanist Philosophies 1.1.1 Different types of Mechanism I distinguish the following mechanist hypotheses: BEHAVIOURIST MECHANISM Some machines can behave as thinking beings

Re: The Seventh Step (Preamble)

2009-02-05 Thread Kim Jones
On 05/02/2009, at 4:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Kim, Still interested? I must say I was wrong. Only a scientist admits he can be wrong. Everyone else will risk their life in the attempt to prove how right they are. How right can one be? Considering the emotion and passion some

Re: The Seventh Step (Preamble)

2009-02-06 Thread Kim Jones
On 07/02/2009, at 8:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Music begins with silence. The silence that precedes the upbeat is part of the music. Sometimes the Nothing is inserted into the midst of the music, Listen to the opening 20 or so bars of Claude Debussy's L'après midi d'un faune for a glowing

Re: Bruno's Brussels Thesis English Version Chap 1 (trial translation)

2009-02-10 Thread Kim Jones
but might be worth it. Looking forward to the creative maths assignments - but take your time; we only live once but we live forever Best Kim On 10/02/2009, at 2:54 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Feb 2009, at 04:47, Kim Jones wrote: (see Broukère 1982), It is (see de Brouckère 1982) Note

Re: A summary I just wrote for my blog

2009-02-11 Thread Kim Jones
We only live once, but we live forever There is no afterlife - only life eternal Kim Jones On 11/02/2009, at 4:27 AM, Michael Rosefield wrote: I wrote it for my friends, but feel free to criticise! http://rosyatrandom.livejournal.com/35445.html

Re: physical laws as optimal inference

2009-02-13 Thread Kim Jones
Do it Nisheeth - try and answer the Burt Bacharach (actually the Hal David) Question: What's It All About, Alfie? Everybody will certainly read you. Expect frank feedback from this list as you already know. Good luck. Kim On 14/02/2009, at 11:14 AM, Nisheeth Srivastava wrote: Hi guys

Re: The Amoeba's Secret - English Version started

2009-03-06 Thread Kim Jones
of the continuation of the translation by tonight - am being extremely careful to get it dead right to avoid any ambiguities. regards, Kim Jones People often confuse belief in a reality with belief in a physical reality - Bruno Marchal http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ Email: kmjco

Wolfram Alpha

2009-03-09 Thread Kim Jones
we already do that? etc. cheers, Kim Jones There are no surprising facts about reality, only models of it that are surprised by facts Email: kmjco...@mac.com kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Web: http://web.mac.com/kmjcommp/Plenitude_Music Phone: (612) 9389 4239 or 0431 723 001

Re: Wolfram Alpha

2009-03-09 Thread Kim Jones
- not a bullshit one as they already exist) and I'll be one of the first to congratulate you. Perhaps Steve Wolfram (and the Internet) deserve a bit more of your consideration than just this? best regards, Kim On 10/03/2009, at 12:24 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Kim Jones wrote: http

Re: Wolfram Alpha

2009-03-10 Thread Kim Jones
. A kind of emergence phenomenon, if you will. Kim Jones On 11/03/2009, at 2:40 AM, John Mikes wrote: Kim, this seems to be a so far undiscussed domain and I have some concerns. First off: the English usage mixes up 'education' with 'teaching'. Schools have a task to transform unformatted

Re: Altered states of consciousness

2009-03-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 23/03/2009, at 7:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: And why does plant constructs altered states of consciousness molecules? In my opinion it has all to do with the incredibly complex relationships that plant have with animals, in general, and insects in particular. Many plants have to detract

Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

2009-03-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 23/03/2009, at 1:56 AM, John Mikes wrote: Russell, you are not alone as the target of this remark... Many people consider 'creativity' (like change, quality etc.) a POSITIVE concept. - WRONG. - Just consider the recent creative financial genius Maddoff, with his b$50 scam - he

Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

2009-03-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 26/03/2009, at 4:03 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: Actually, Madoff was just skillful - not creative. Ponzi was creative. Brent Touché Kim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List

Re: d'Espagnat wins Templeton Award

2009-03-26 Thread Kim Jones
On 20/03/2009, at 6:37 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Kim, On 19 Mar 2009, at 05:19, Kim Jones wrote: But who can say that creativity cannot be taught when no institution sets out to do so? I have been teacher in a modern school based on creative thinking, but it happens

Re: Altered states of consciousness

2009-03-27 Thread Kim Jones
On 28/03/2009, at 4:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Some hallucinogens go even further than this, and introduce an element of amnesia for semantic and episodic memories, such that users report the experience of forgetting that I had taken a drug, that I was human, or even what being human

New Thinkers Website

2009-04-17 Thread Kim Jones
http://www.debonosociety.com/ What's important? Thinking is perhaps the most important thing humans do. By and large they are pretty slip-shod at it. The problems of Global Warming and the Global Financial Crisis pale into insignificance compared to the problem of the disastrous quality of

Re: New Thinkers Website

2009-04-18 Thread Kim Jones
On 17/04/2009, at 11:09 PM, John Mikes wrote: Dear Kim, thank you for re-introduce me to DeBono. I heard about him in the late 90s at a list called Creativity (what I disliked, because it positied that Cr. can be developed and learned It can - as I never tire of saying. Come over to

Temporary Reality

2009-05-01 Thread Kim Jones
Perhaps atheism is necessary as a stepping stone to a more correct theology? Materialistic atheism is not irrational, being on the side of reason, but it may be illogical, given the advanced view of reality we are adopting on this list that challenges the myth of a hard material

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-05 Thread Kim Jones
for your own personal experience to turn up. What if it doesn't? Best regards, Kim Jones --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-06 Thread Kim Jones
On 07/05/2009, at 4:33 AM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: The purpose of my questions was to question the suggested advantage of using atheism as the [preferred] fixed point from which to view the universe [by a person]. OK - the only advantage I am suggesting is that atheism be seen as a

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Kim Jones
On 07/05/2009, at 3:43 PM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: I think that knowing what a person is is sort of like knowing what consciousness is. Good. Have you ever had the feeling/hunch/thought/intuition/ apprehension/revelation/vision (call it what you will) that you know a person to whom the

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Kim Jones
On 08/05/2009, at 2:30 AM, daddycay...@msn.com wrote: People here keep thinking that I am trying to convince people that God is a person and/or that there is a God. OK - we will stop it! I don't really think that, but if you are anything like me Tom, you have gone through periods in your

Re: Temporary Reality

2009-05-07 Thread Kim Jones
Fabulous post, Jason. Enthralling stuff. Kim On 08/05/2009, at 9:20 AM, Jason Resch wrote: If we on this list believe that everything (or at least everything with a self consistent definition) exists, then we must also believe that all possible gods exist. Be they artificial

Re: Consciousness is information?

2009-05-28 Thread Kim Jones
On 28/05/2009, at 12:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Also, I will from now on, abandon the term machine for the term number. Relatively to a fixed chosen universal machine, like Robinson arithmetic, such an identification can be done precisely. I will come back on this to my explanation to Kim,

Re: Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe

2009-05-30 Thread Kim Jones
and mythical as somebody's supposed high IQ. I could put a thinking test in front of him that would defeat him totally, yet be easily done by a 7 year old. Kim Jones On 31/05/2009, at 9:16 AM, russell standish wrote: Obviously the main reason to pay much attention to it is that Langan has an IQ

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-13 Thread Kim Jones
On 11/07/2009, at 6:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I am also a bit anxious about Kim, who is the one who suggested me the initial explanations, but who seems to have disappear right now. OK - I'm back. Since May 27 to two days ago I have been without Internet access. I made the mistake of

Re: The seven step series

2009-07-15 Thread Kim Jones
On 14/07/2009, at 6:40 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The intersection of the two sets S1 = {1, 2, 3} and S2 = {2, 3, 7, 8} will be written (S1 \inter S2), and is equal to the set of elements which belongs to both S1 and S2. We have (S1 \inter S2) = {2, 3} We can define (S1 \inter S2) = {x

Re: Dreaming On

2009-07-26 Thread Kim Jones
Could somebody kindly tell me/explain to me what RITSIAR means? I cannot find any explanation of this in the threads which mention it. Sorry to be dumb, Kim On 27/07/2009, at 12:52 AM, David Nyman wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded to my initial sally on dreams and machines.

Re: Dreaming On

2009-07-27 Thread Kim Jones
On 27/07/2009, at 11:40 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote: Hi Kim, RITSIAR means real in the sense that I am real. Cheers Brian Kim Jones wrote: Could somebody kindly tell me/explain to me what RITSIAR means? I cannot find any explanation of this in the threads which mention it. Sorry

Arguably The World's Greatest Woman

2009-11-13 Thread Kim Jones
(Jodie Foster in the film) Introduction by Richard Dawkins cheers, Kim Jones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

3D Mandelbrot

2009-11-18 Thread Kim Jones
The Mandelbulb: first 'true' 3D image of famous fractal enjoy Kim Jones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

Re: The real reasons we don’t have AGI yet

2012-10-08 Thread Kim Jones
Please, please read Edward de Bono's book The Mechanism of Mind for some genuine insights into creativity and how this comes about in mind. Russell if you can't track down a copy I'll lend you mine but it's a treasured object, not least because of the fact that the author autographed it! On

Re: The real reasons we don’t have AGI yet

2012-10-09 Thread Kim Jones
of our translation of Bruno's Amoebas. Kim Jones On 10/10/2012, at 8:16 AM, Russell Standish wrote: Maybe I will take you up on this - I think my uni library card expired years ago, and its a PITA to renew. However, since one doesn't need a mind to be creative (and my interest

Yes, Doctor!

2012-10-10 Thread Kim Jones
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9597345/Afterlife-exists-says-top-brain-surgeon.html Comments, theories, reflections welcome. You pays your money and you makes your choice. Kim Jones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Yes, Doctor!

2012-10-13 Thread Kim Jones
MMmf Maybe it's time for your afternoon nap, John? Kim Jones On 14/10/2012, at 4:40 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: This is supposed to be a scientific discussion. Yes, so why are you talking about NDEs and UFOs? If I

Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.

2013-01-09 Thread Kim Jones
Not in the dictionary. try again. On 09/01/2013, at 11:21 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: paroxistic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To

Re: Tegmark's New Book

2014-01-31 Thread Kim Jones
a cute unmarried cosmologist that believes in Arithmetical realism to gang bang. Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get

Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis

2014-02-01 Thread Kim Jones
give dandelion coffee a go or even cannabis. This last may prove fatal to your inflated self-confidence concerning everything you write. Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http

Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis

2014-02-01 Thread Kim Jones
Actually, John Clark wrote... On 1 Feb 2014, at 8:34 pm, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 1 Feb 2014, at 8:24 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Your endless homemade acronyms that you pretend every educated person should know get tiresome too. Try Vitamin B 12

Re: Block Universes

2014-02-03 Thread Kim Jones
other. What has time got to do with any of that? Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark

Re: Films I think people on this forum might like

2014-02-03 Thread Kim Jones
of my neck when that happens. I cannot imagine a universe without good sci-fi although logically they must exist Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http

Re: Films I think people on this forum might like

2014-02-03 Thread Kim Jones
. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http

Re: Block Universes

2014-02-03 Thread Kim Jones
and, presumably, eternally (whatever 'eternally' could possibly mean in a block universe.) K Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-14 Thread Kim Jones
and Jesse's lengthly discussion she would know her comment below isn't true. But of course truth isn't one of Liz's strong points, it generally comes in second to spite Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-14 Thread Kim Jones
. Something as basic as a Boltzmann brain would be in principle, instantly possible in any universe, surely. Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-14 Thread Kim Jones
On 15 Feb 2014, at 1:09 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/14/2014 4:24 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 14 Feb 2014, at 3:42 pm, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: What about the CMBR? When it was created there were (presumably) no observers in existence in the universe

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-15 Thread Kim Jones
On 15 Feb 2014, at 10:58 pm, David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com wrote: On 15 February 2014 10:25, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I wonder that. I generally assume people arguing on a forum like this are rational (ish) and hence that they intend what they say and when they keep

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-15 Thread Kim Jones
but there is no fail safe way of knowing beforehand. Kim Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-15 Thread Kim Jones
On 16 Feb 2014, at 2:06 pm, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:23:35 PM UTC-5, Kim Jones wrote: On 15 Feb 2014, at 1:09 pm, meekerdb meek...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/14/2014 4:24 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 14 Feb 2014, at 3:42 pm, Russell

Re: Suicide Words God and Ideas

2014-02-16 Thread Kim Jones
On 11 Feb 2014, at 2:15 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: The point is that if we take the assumptions of comp, then quantum duplication, hypothetical matter transmitter duplication, and living from day to day ALL involve the same amount of (or lack of) continuity. Yes. The way I now

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-16 Thread Kim Jones
WHAT ARE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS, SCHOOLBOY? Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain On 17

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-16 Thread Kim Jones
WHAT ARE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS, SCHOOLBOY? Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain On 17

Re: What are numbers? What is math?

2014-02-16 Thread Kim Jones
WHAT ARE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS, SCHOOLBOY? Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain On 17

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-02 Thread Kim Jones
Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL On 1 Mar 2014, at 7:43 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: and I chose numbers as people are familiarized with them. Bruno How about music? Music is just a bunch of numbers. We're music. Let's go to the pub and celebrate. Kim -- You received

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-02 Thread Kim Jones
On 2 Mar 2014, at 11:03 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Mar 2014, at 11:13, Kim Jones wrote: Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL On 1 Mar 2014, at 7:43 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: and I chose numbers as people are familiarized with them. Bruno How about

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 3 Mar 2014, at 6:49 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 03 Mar 2014, at 08:32, Kim Jones wrote: On 2 Mar 2014, at 11:03 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 02 Mar 2014, at 11:13, Kim Jones wrote: Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL On 1 Mar 2014, at 7:43 pm

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 3 Mar 2014, at 8:53 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: What is it, Bruno, about 3 beats to the bar that precisely, irrefutably describes to my mind a circle? You tell me. Bruno Sure. I think it is this: http://youtu.be/AP_CSQgBPpQ The angel and the devil both pumping The

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 4 Mar 2014, at 3:07 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 3 Mar 2014, at 8:53 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: What is it, Bruno, about 3 beats to the bar

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-03 Thread Kim Jones
-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your

Re: If it's all math, then where does math come from?

2014-03-03 Thread Kim Jones
puts the Russian Empire back together. Hail Vladimir! Russia's newest Czar! Sorry, I digress. Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never

Re: The Dalai Lama's Ski Trip

2014-03-08 Thread Kim Jones
Hang about. The jolly old joyful Dalai Lama is correct. The meaning of life is happiness. Is there any point disagreeing with that? I mean, which life forms strive for sadness? Kim Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719

Re: The way the future was

2014-03-10 Thread Kim Jones
On 10 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Although I have very little good to say about Malcolm McLaren he did arguably launch a whole new musical experience with the Sex Pistols, a type of music which had until then only been underground (Rezillos? B52s ?) but bubbled to

Re: The Dalai Lama's Ski Trip

2014-03-12 Thread Kim Jones
, for example. If you inhale briefly the smouldering incense of burning cannabis you WILL become happy. And, in roughly 7.5 seconds. Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http

Re: The Dalai Lama's Ski Trip

2014-03-13 Thread Kim Jones
The other thing that occurs to me concerning happiness is that many feel that happiness is something bigger than or more important than a simple feeling or emotion. To say that smoking cannabis makes you happy will almost certainly cause some to react that I am trivialising happiness. Nothing

Re: Quick video about materialism

2014-03-14 Thread Kim Jones
complex music and writing it down from ear in standard music notation. I sometimes refer to myself as a mathemusician. I'll now watch the clip you posted! Kim Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web

Re: The best education money can buy.

2014-03-15 Thread Kim Jones
On 15 Mar 2014, at 5:31 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: The Catholic Church had a similar policy, I believe. Give us a person for the first five years and they will be ours for life or words to that effect. Indeed. And - of course, another intention would be to bypass those

Re: Quick video about materialism

2014-03-15 Thread Kim Jones
On 15 Mar 2014, at 8:25 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote: So one could play you some Ferneyhough, say Shadowtime, and you'd be able to score it on first listen? I know nobody that has an ear that good, but then every person makes me wrong every day anyway :-)

Hell on Earth

2014-03-15 Thread Kim Jones
only been incarcerated for eight hours. Read on: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2580828/Could-soon-create-hell-EARTH-Biotechnology-let-extend-criminals-lives-makes-suffering-HUNDREDS-years.html Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco

Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread Kim Jones
Inflation appears now to be evidenced http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization/?utm_source=hootsuiteutm_campaign=hootsuite Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239

Re: Gravity Wave Signature Discovered

2014-03-17 Thread Kim Jones
OK - so I should have written Gravitational Wave (Gravity waves are something else.) K On 18 Mar 2014, at 8:14 am, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Inflation appears now to be evidenced http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gravity-waves-cmb-b-mode-polarization

Re: [foar] COMP = no cloning?

2014-03-24 Thread Kim Jones
On 25 Mar 2014, at 8:00 am, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Well then the question is How is cloning different from Asking the doctor to gather info from the substitution level to reproduce you at two different locations? To me at least that seems to be essentially cloning you.

Re: [foar] COMP = no cloning?

2014-03-25 Thread Kim Jones
On 25 Mar 2014, at 9:23 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: I am not a number! I am a free man! (Sorry...) OK - I've seen The Elephant Man too... ( took me all day to recognise your twisted quote source!) Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-03-26 Thread Kim Jones
Thank you Russell I have ordered my copy two. Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain

Re: Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-03-26 Thread Kim Jones
Thank you Russell I have ordered my copy two Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain

Re: [foar] Amoeba's Secret now available in paperback

2014-03-31 Thread Kim Jones
Did anyone around here actually want to talk about Bruno's book, the subject of this thread? Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling

Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.8146 Enjoy. I sure did. I think... Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your

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