One solution to the Measure Problem: UTM outputs a qualia, not a universe

2007-09-15 Thread Rolf Nelson
If I understand the Measure Problem correctly, we wonder why we find ourselves in a Goldilocks Universe of stars and galaxies rather than a simpler universe consisting solely of blackbody radiation, or a more complex, unpredictable Harry Potter universe. 1. An attempt at the solution was that

Re: One solution to the Measure Problem: UTM outputs a qualia, not a universe

2007-09-16 Thread Rolf Nelson
Steven Smithee is not just a Black Belt Bayesian, but a Black Belt at Keeping Track of Who Has Said What About Cool Topics in Web Pages that are Linked To from Nowhere Else on the Internet. He pointed out http://udassa.com/summary1.html, where someone (Hal Finney, if we go by 'whois') said: A

Re: One solution to the Measure Problem: UTM outputs a qualia, not a universe

2007-09-17 Thread Rolf Nelson
World-Index-Compression Postulate: The most probable way for the output of a random UTM program to be a single qualia, is through having a part of the program calculate a Universe, U, that is similar to the universe we currently are observing; and then having another part of the program

Re: One solution to the Measure Problem: UTM outputs a qualia, not a universe

2007-09-17 Thread Rolf Nelson
and would get angry if I punched it I meant to say, would punch me back if I punched it. It's begging the question for the search algorithm to know whether the internal mental state is angry. -Rolf --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

Re: One solution to the Measure Problem: UTM outputs a qualia, not a universe

2007-09-17 Thread Rolf Nelson
The considerations trying to solve the measure problem have not been that primitive, but much better. The concept of a cubic meter won't make sense in most of the universes, and to compare infinities in a rigorous manner is nothing new to mathematicians. Both, Standish and Schmidhuber (and

What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-21 Thread Rolf Nelson
(Warning: This post assumes an familiarity with UD+ASSA and with the cosmological Measure Problem.) Observational Consequences: 1. Provides a possible explanation for the Measure Problem of why we shouldn't be extremely surprised to find we live in a lawful universe, rather than an extremely

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-24 Thread Rolf Nelson
On Oct 24, 9:25 pm, Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolf Nelson wrote: 1. Provides a possible explanation for the Measure Problem of why we shouldn't be extremely surprised to find we live in a lawful universe, rather than an extremely chaotic universe, or a homogeneous cloud of gas

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-27 Thread Rolf Nelson
Wei, your examples are convincing, although other decision models have similar problems. If your two examples were the only problems that UDASSA had, I would have few qualms about adopting it over the other decision models I've seen. Note that even if you adopt a decision model, you still in

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-27 Thread Rolf Nelson
To put it more generally, thinking in terms of how much you care about the consequences of your actions *allows* you to have an overall preference about A and B that can be expressed as an expected utility: P(A) * U(A) + P(B) * U(B) since P(A) and P(B) can denote how much you care about

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-28 Thread Rolf Nelson
On Oct 25, 7:59 am, Wei Dai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't care about (1) and (3) because those universes are too arbitrary or random, and I can defend that by pointing to their high algorithmic complexities. In (3) the universe doesn't have a high aIgorithmic complexity. Any theory that

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-28 Thread Rolf Nelson
However, to demonstrate would probably be difficult, and if we had something powerful enough to do this, we might have a theory that allows UDASSA to make novel predictions about the observed Universe. To give examples of how hard this is: 1. What is the probability that our Universe has

Re: What are the consequences of UD+ASSA?

2007-10-30 Thread Rolf Nelson
In (3) the universe doesn't have a high aIgorithmic complexity. I should have said that in (3) our decisions don't have any consequences, so we disregard them even if we do care what happens in them. The end result is the same: I'll act as if I only live in (2). In the (3) I gave, you're