NYTimes.com: This May Be Our Last Chance to Halt Bird Flu in Humans and We Are Blowing It

Explore this gift article from The New York Times. You can read it for free without a subscription. This May Be Our Last Chance to Halt Bird Flu in Humans and We Are Blowing It “There’s a fine line between one person and 10 people with H5N1.”

Re: LLAMA3

Depends on how things evolve? If AI is just a machine, then it may have no need of us. If its a Neural Net, it might see synergy as advantageous. We decide, say if silk feels smooth for example or the smoothness pleases? Qualia, the qualitative difference that explains evolution. Meanwhile,

Re: LLAMA3

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:10 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: *>> Two things determine what LLAMA3 or any other AI will do. * >> *1) The machine's environment, which in this case is the prompt which can >> be written text, audio, a picture, or a video. * >> *2) The way the neural network of the machine

Re: LLAMA3

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 8:45 AM John Clark wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 5:23 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > > *> "I don't think you understand "values". They are the basis of >> motivation,\"* >> > > *And **I think you don't understand what the word "motivation" means, the > reasons that

Re: LLAMA3

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 5:23 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> "I don't think you understand "values". They are the basis of > motivation,\"* > *And **I think you don't understand what the word "motivation" means, the reasons that something behaves in a particular way. * * > "**What motivates

Re: LLAMA3

On 4/23/2024 2:02 PM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 3:18 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *>> I don't see whyan AI would need us to supply the Qualia, it could do that on its own. It's easy to see the advantage we would get by merging with an AI, but it's much harder to see

Re: LLAMA3

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 3:18 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > *>> I don't see why an AI would need us to supply the Qualia, it could do > that on its own. It's easy to see the advantage we would get by merging > with an AI, but it's much harder to see what advantage the AI would get out > of the deal.*

Re: LLAMA3

On 4/23/2024 3:06 AM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 1:10 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote: /> "AI Neural Nets and LLM's get loaded onto low-error quantum computers we at least may be creating a new life, and later, merging with such, because it makes

Re: LLAMA3

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 1:10 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> "AI Neural Nets and LLM's get loaded onto low-error quantum computers we > at least may be creating a new life, and later, merging with such, because > it makes for better Milky

Re: LLAMA3

> On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 03:19:37 PM EDT, Brent Meeker > wrote: > > > So far some human has to provide motivation in the form of prompts. Has > anymore tried a feedback loop in which AI's responses are returned at prompts? > > Brent > Yes - I believe that experiment was done, and it

Re: LLAMA3

Not a clue news wise. However, I am guessing when AI Neural Nets and LLM's get loaded onto low-error quantum computers we at least may be creating a new life, and later, merging with such, because it makes for better Milky Way traveling. Like a trade off, it supplies increased intellect,

Re: LLAMA3

So far some human has to provide motivation in the form of prompts. Has anymore tried a feedback loop in which AI's responses are returned at prompts? Brent On 4/21/2024 4:55 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 6:19 AM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote: /> "I am

Re: LLAMA3

On 4/21/2024 4:44 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:29 PM Brent Meeker wrote: />>> "How about the war in Ukraine, Russian hacking, global warming,  Chinese threats in the Taiwan strait and South China sea, and U.S. infrastructure decay?"/ *>> If

Re: As I've said before, environmentalists are not serious people

Well, I am not active on the extropian lists anymore so.. I agree and I agreed with you. /Henrik Den sön 21 apr. 2024 16:20John Clark skrev: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 9:26 AM Henrik Ohrstrom > wrote: > > *> "According to spike I am a socialist suspect in this question.* > > > Don't feel

Re: As I've said before, environmentalists are not serious people

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 9:26 AM Henrik Ohrstrom wrote: *> "According to spike I am a socialist suspect in this question.* Don't feel bad, Spike said I suffered from Trump derangemint syndrome, but Spike predicted that private military militias would be the saviors of democracy, however they

Re: As I've said before, environmentalists are not serious people

Most likely they are sponsored by le putain, useful idiots are the technical term I believe. We are seeing more and more of Ruskie Mir here in europe. Did the package to Ukraine go through? There are serious numbers of red supporters of ruskie mir all over the world. I really don't see what's in

Re: LLAMA3

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 6:19 AM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> "I am not looking for the Singularity itself, simply a great leap in the > improvement in the successful use if AI in invention."* *There will certainly be a huge leap in

Re: LLAMA3

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:29 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > *>>> "How about the war in Ukraine, Russian hacking, global warming, >> Chinese threats in the Taiwan strait and South China sea, and U.S. >> infrastructure decay?"* > > > *>> If the singularity happens in the next two or three years, which

Re: LLAMA3

I am not looking for the Singularity itself, simply a great leap in the improvement in the successful use if AI in invention. What's the chance of a wipe out as suggested? The impact of technology, not massively improved, just significantly, 2 weekends ago. The Light Show over Israel. So given

Re: LLAMA3

On 4/20/2024 4:23 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:11 PM Brent Meeker wrote: /> How about the war in Ukraine, Russian hacking, global warming,  Chinese threats in the Taiwan strait and South China sea, and U.S. infrastructure decay?/ *If the singularity happens

Re: LLAMA3

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:11 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> How about the war in Ukraine, Russian hacking, global warming, Chinese > threats in the Taiwan strait and South China sea, and U.S. infrastructure > decay?* *If the singularity happens in the next two or three years, which doesn't sound

Re: LLAMA3

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:11 PM Brent Meeker wrote: *> How about the war in Ukraine, Russian hacking, global warming, Chinese > threats in the Taiwan strait and South China sea, and U.S. infrastructure > decay?* *If the singularity happens in the next two or three years, which doesn't sound

Re: As I've said before, environmentalists are not serious people

Are they really environmentalist? or is that just what they say they are?  Did they every do anything to improve the environment?  Sound like dumb fucks to me. Brent On 4/20/2024 1:34 PM, John Clark wrote: Now environmentalists hate Electric cars, they set fire to an electrical pylon

Re: LLAMA3

On 4/20/2024 8:09 AM, John Clark wrote: Meta (a.k.a. Facebook) released LLAMA3 just a few days ago, and it's amazing for three reasons: 1) It's tiny, it only has 70 billion parameters, GPT4 is about 1.8 trillion parameters. 2) Despite its small size on AI benchmarks it's performance is just a

As I've said before, environmentalists are not serious people

Now environmentalists hate Electric cars, they set fire to an electrical pylon supplying power to a Tesla factory in Germany that makes 500,000 electric cars a year and halted production: Environmentalist claim responsibility for a Tesla factory arson attack

LLAMA3

Meta (a.k.a. Facebook) released LLAMA3 just a few days ago, and it's amazing for three reasons: 1) It's tiny, it only has 70 billion parameters, GPT4 is about 1.8 trillion parameters. 2) Despite its small size on AI benchmarks it's performance is just a smidgen below that of GPT4. 3) It is open

A Thorium Nuclear Clock

Although not yet published the journal Physical Review Letters has accepted a new paper on nuclear thorium clocks which sounds very exciting, you can read the abstract here: Laser excitation of the Th-229 nucleus

Re: Intel's Newest $350 Million Machine

Le jeu. 18 avr. 2024 à 23:35, Brent Meeker a écrit : > > > On 4/18/2024 1:29 PM, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 4:00 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > > >> >> * > Or the driving force is hype >> https://youtu.be/vQChW_jgMMM?si=ZbiTWL1AymA3nhEN >>

Re: New Electric Atlas Robot Revealed by Boston Dynamics

Impressive mechanics. I wonder does he have on-board intelligence...or is there a high band width link to a big computer. Brent On 4/18/2024 4:51 AM, John Clark wrote: *New Electric Atlas Robot Revealed by Boston Dynamics*  John K Clark    See

Re: Intel's Newest $350 Million Machine

On 4/18/2024 1:29 PM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 4:00 PM Brent Meeker wrote: // /> Or the driving force is hype https://youtu.be/vQChW_jgMMM?si=ZbiTWL1AymA3nhEN/ In my humble opinion it would be impossible to overhype the AI revolution that we are currently

Re: Intel's Newest $350 Million Machine

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 4:00 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > * > Or the driving force is hype > https://youtu.be/vQChW_jgMMM?si=ZbiTWL1AymA3nhEN > * > In my humble opinion it would be impossible to overhype the AI revolution that we are currently

Re: Intel's Newest $350 Million Machine

Or the driving force is hype https://youtu.be/vQChW_jgMMM?si=ZbiTWL1AymA3nhEN which boosts stock price and investment. Brent On 4/18/2024 9:28 AM, John Clark wrote: I think machines like this are the driving force behind the entire AI revolution that we are currently observing, and this

Intel's Newest $350 Million Machine

I think machines like this are the driving force behind the entire AI revolution that we are currently observing, and this particular one is the cream of the crop: *Intel's Newest $350 Million Machine* John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

New Electric Atlas Robot Revealed by Boston Dynamics

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Re: 120 orders of magnitude.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 2:39 PM Brent Meeker wrote: * On the contrary I think people who cite this as a great failure of QFT > are producing clickbait. No physicist has ever taken the number > seriously. * > Well of course no physicist has ever taken that number seriously, that is the point!!

Re: 120 orders of magnitude.

On the contrary I think people who cite this as a great failure of QFT are producing clickbait.  No physicist has ever taken the number seriously.  I think it was always a misbegotten number because it's really calculating the eigenvalue of the energy in a Planck size cube.  But the eigenvalue

Re: 120 orders of magnitude.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 12:07 AM Brent Meeker wrote: > What I said. > https://www.patreon.com/posts/worst-prediction-102409950 This is a good example of why I'm not a big fan of Sabine Hossenfelder, she's always right and everybody else is always wrong. In 1967 Yakov Zel’dovich was the first

120 orders of magnitude.

What I said. https://www.patreon.com/posts/worst-prediction-102409950 Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

NYTimes.com: U.S. Awards Samsung $6.4 Billion to Bolster Semiconductor Production

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Regulating advanced artificial agents

On April 4, 2020 for the journal Science published an article recommending, it seemed to me, a virtual shut down of all further research on the improvement of AI software or hardware. Regulating advanced artificial agents I sent the following

Re: NYTimes.com: A Tantalizing ‘Hint’ That Astronomers Got Dark Energy All Wrong

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 5:53 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: *> "The article > at > https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/dark-energy-might-not-be-constant-after-all/ > > says: 'One alternative theory proposes that

Re: NYTimes.com: A Tantalizing ‘Hint’ That Astronomers Got Dark Energy All Wrong

The article at https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/dark-energy-might-not-be-constant-after-all/ says: 'One alternative theory proposes that the universe may be filled with a fluctuating form of dark energy dubbed “quintessence.” There are also several other alternative models that assume the

How Do Machines ‘Grok’ Data?

When training a neural network programmers are always on the lookout for something called "overfitting" when the AI seems to stop generalizing and just memorizes the training data; typically that's the point where the training stops. However, when a researcher at OpenAI was working with a small

NYTimes.com: TSMC Will Receive $6.6 Billion to Bolster U.S. Chip Manufacturing

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Trump’s Eclipse Ad, Adjusted For Scientific Accuracy

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Claude and I discuss Von Neumann probes, Dyson Spears and ET

I had an interesting discussion with Claude, which in my humble opinion is the smartest AI around, or at least the smartest that is currently available to the general public. [ JKC] *Could a von Neumann probe make a Dyson sphere?* *[ Claude] " It's an interesting question about the feasibility

Re: [Extropolis] NYTimes.com: Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 10:59 PM Keith Henson wrote: *> "Open-source software is normally secure, but not against this kind > of attack. Whoever did it spent years working their way into a > position of trust."* *It doesn't look like the workings of an individual to me, I think it needed the

Re: [Extropolis] NYTimes.com: Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack?

I'd be surprised if it hadn't been done so already. This story has been in the mainstream media news for the past weekend at least. I agree its an amazing story - we collectively dodged a bullet, but worryingly have little to prevent its reoccurrence. On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 08:51:32AM -0400,

Microsoft demonstrate the most reliable logical qubits on record

It seems that Large Language Models are not the only thing that has been advancing at warp speed during the past year, so have Quantum Computers, and Microsoft has been leading the charge in both categories. Microsoft made the first ever two-qubit error-corrected quantum entangling gate. They use

Re: [Extropolis] NYTimes.com: Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 10:59 PM Keith Henson wrote: *"That's one of the most amazing stories I have ever heard."* *Anyone should feel free to forward it to the Extropy List. I can't. * * John K Clark* On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 5:15 AM John Clark wrote: > > > > Explore this gift article from

Re: NYTimes.com: A Tantalizing ‘Hint’ That Astronomers Got Dark Energy All Wrong

On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:00 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > "*The next question will be what causes DE to change?"* That is a very good question but nobody has a very good answer, but at least now we know that's the correct question to ask. Assuming of course this result holds up and dark energy

Re: NYTimes.com: A Tantalizing ‘Hint’ That Astronomers Got Dark Energy All Wrong

"If the work of dark energy were constant over time, it would eventually push all the stars and galaxies so far apart that even atoms would be torn asunder,..." That's not true.  The estimated strength of dark energy, w=-1, implied that galaxy clusters and any smaller groups would still be

NYTimes.com: A Tantalizing ‘Hint’ That Astronomers Got Dark Energy All Wrong

Explore this gift article from The New York Times. You can read it for free without a subscription. A Tantalizing ‘Hint’ That Astronomers Got Dark Energy All Wrong Scientists may have discovered a major flaw in their understanding of that mysterious cosmic force. That could be good news for the

Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 11:15 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *>"Trump failed on some of his braggings for sure."* > *You think?* > * "> For policies? Immigration, Inflation, Foreign troubles, crime, he > did better. "* > During the

NYTimes.com: Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack?

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Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

Trump failed on some of his braggings for sure. For policies? Immigration, Inflation, Foreign troubles, crime,  he did better. Will he take power in 2024? Eh, we'll talk.  On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 06:47:51 AM EDT, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:15 PM

Re: Coming Singularity

You sure that human brains don't use quantum computation?  Maybe the Irish got this wrong? Our brains use quantum computation | | | | | | | | | | | Our brains use quantum computation A team of scientists believe our brains could use quantum computation, after adapting an idea

Re: Coming Singularity

My name is Legion.  On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 11:07:47 AM EDT, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2024, 7:18 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote: Opinion on what occurs when we load, not an LLM, but a LLM + a Neural  Net on a low-error, high entanglement,

How long term memories are formed

*It has long been a mystery about what the mechanism that forms Long term memories is, but in the March 27, 2024 issue of the journal Nature there is an article that takes a big step towards explaining it. I found it interesting because memories are a large part of what defines us. It turns out

Re: Coming Singularity

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024, 7:18 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Opinion on what occurs when we load, not an LLM, but a LLM + a Neural Net > on a low-error, high entanglement, quantum computer. Will this create a > mind? > If you're not

Earthquake in Taiwan

90% of the world's most advanced computer chips are manufactured in Taiwan, and Taiwan was just hit by a magnitude 7.3 earthquake. TSMC has evacuated their fabrication plants and stopped operations, they say all their employees are safe. They also said this: *“Initial inspections show that

Re: Coming Singularity

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:18 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Opinion on what occurs when we load, not an LLM, but a LLM + a Neural > Net on a low-error, high entanglement, quantum computer. Will this create a > mind? * > *Certainly. A

Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:15 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > I continually nag, not Personalities but Policies. If the Policies are > workable, personality be damned.* > *It doesn't matter if a policy is workable or not if a personality

Re: Coming Singularity

Opinion on what occurs when we load, not an LLM, but a LLM + a Neural  Net on a low-error, high entanglement, quantum computer. Will this create a mind?  On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 08:31:25 AM EDT, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:28 PM Russell Standish wrote:

Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

Calls, JC's analysis as factual, or as it is now termed, "based."  Engineering should never be guided by ideology only what works?  For ALL of us, we primates are often governed by our amygdala's alone, Team spirit & Bad Experiences with the Other Team. Yoda would say, "Strong in the Rage and

STARGATE , the hundred billion dollar 2028 Ultracomputer

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Fwd: AI has unblocked progress toward advanced nanotechnology

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Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:44 PM Russell Standish wrote: > *>"Environmentalists" are not one united group of people.* *Environmentalists are united about one thing, they never saw a large scale power source that they didn't hate. The self righteous little brat and self-proclaimed

Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 12:09:25PM -0400, John Clark wrote: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 10:05 AM William Flynn Wallace > wrote: > > > > John, you are judging all environmentalists by a tiny group of > extremists.  > > >   > Tiny? I didn't see a larger group of environmentalists lobbying

Re: Environmentalists are not serious people

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 10:05 AM William Flynn Wallace wrote: *> John, you are judging all environmentalists by a tiny group of > extremists. * > Tiny? I didn't see a larger group of environmentalists lobbying in favor of SCoPEx or The Thirty Meter Telescope! I am judging environmentalists by

Environmentalists are not serious people

Environmentalists claim global warming poses an existential threat to the entire human race, and yet they oppose even exploring the possibility of stopping it unless it involves a vast amount of human suffering. The pressure from environmentalists proved to be too great and SCoPEx has been

Superintelligence by 2028

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Re: Coming Singularity

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 10:28 PM Russell Standish wrote: * >"There is a big difference between the way transistors are wired in > a CPU and the way neurons are wired up in a brain."* Yes, but modern chips made by companies like NVIDIA, Cerebras and Groq don't make CPUs or even GPUs, they make

Re: Coming Singularity

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 09:55:28AM -0400, John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 9:27 PM Russell Standish > wrote: >   > > >"So to compare apples with apples - the human brain contains around 700  > trillion (7E14) synapses" > > > I believe 700 trillion is a more than generous

Re: Coming Singularity

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024, 1:42 AM Dylan Distasio wrote: > I think we need to be careful with considering LLM parameters as analogous > to synapses. Biological neuronal systems have very significant > differences in terms of structure, complexity, and operation compared to > LLM parameters. > >

Re: Coming Singularity

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 9:27 PM Russell Standish wrote: > * >"So to compare apples with apples - the human brain contains around > 700 trillion (7E14) synapses"* I believe 700 trillion is a more than generous estimate of the number of synapses in the human brain, but I'll let it go.

Re: Coming Singularity

I think we need to be careful with considering LLM parameters as analogous to synapses. Biological neuronal systems have very significant differences in terms of structure, complexity, and operation compared to LLM parameters. Personally, I don't believe it is a given that simply increasing the

Coming Singularity

Been thinking about the timing of the singularity a bit, given progress in generative AI recently, partly as a result of attending NVidia's annual GTC conference. I first heard about GPT3 two years ago, which impressed me with their 150 billion parameter neural net, because I compared that against

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:58 AM Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> As I've said before, to pursue knowledge you need a brain and to operate >> a brain you need energy; and in this galaxy alone hundreds of billions of >> stars are radiating all their energy uselessly into infinite space. And all >> the

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 1:33 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: >> we are the first...> > > > * > "I can't disagree because you said the magic word: perhaps."* > But the scientific method and Occam's Razor insists that if the existing laws of physics can adequately explain an observation (or in this case

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Le dim. 24 mars 2024, 12:41, John Clark a écrit : > On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 9:46 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > > >> And perhaps a simpler explanation is that ET does not exist because we >>> are the first, after all the observable universe is finite in both >>> space and time so somebody's got to

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 9:46 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> And perhaps a simpler explanation is that ET does not exist because we >> are the first, after all the observable universe is finite in both space >> and time so somebody's got to be first. > > > *> "It's simpler to suppose that all

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

I can't disagree because you said the magic word: perhaps. Perhaps we are the first. Perhaps the universe is teeming with superintelligent life that acts upon reality in ways that we don't perceive. Perhaps other perhapses are perhaps true and perhaps not. Time will tell and we will see. On

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On 3/23/2024 2:19 PM, 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List wrote: Under such a supposition of zillions of copies of you, being the Sean Carroll objection against 'immortality,' my reply is. "Good enough for Government work." The second thought is, screw it, we don't run the show, so go

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On 3/23/2024 11:41 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 7:09 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: ><...billions of stars are radiating all their energy uselessly intonfinite space> /> "Billions do, but perhaps millions (or thousands) don't."/ I could explain the existence of

Re: Risk tolerance and the Singularity

For what its worth Kurzweil over a year ago said, with preciseness, that he felt 2030 was the time by when medical nanobots would be doing repair in our bloodstreams.  On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 05:46:57 PM EDT, Terren Suydam wrote: Immortality is overrated. On Tue, Mar 19, 2024

Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Announce when its out Dr. P. I'm in a dowloading mood from Zon.  On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 11:39:34 AM EDT, John Clark wrote: Giulio Prisco wrote on   https://www.turingchurch.com/p/irrational-mechanics-draft-ch-14 >"I’ve been talking of the ultimate God (the cosmic operating

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Point of order. Astronomers and Physicists don't even agree, anymore on the essential facts. Age of the Cosmos, for example. For me, I'll go with the quasi-mystical conclusion that we inhabit a Neural Net, aka, The Universe is Autodidactic. Feel free to make it all dead empty, or, filled with

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 7:09 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: ><...billions of stars are radiating all their energy uselessly into nfinite > space> > > *> "Billions do, but perhaps millions (or thousands) don't."* I could explain the existence of no Dyson spheres in the Milky Way, and I could

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

<...billions of stars are radiating all their energy uselessly into infinite space> Billions do, but perhaps millions (or thousands) don't. They are talking of Tabby's star... Even if Tabby's star is not that thing, come on man, some imagination! They could extract energy from the quantum

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 2:02 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: <...all you'd need is a glance into the night sky.> > > > > > > *>> "But perhaps they are subtler than that. Note that we observe > wildanimals with cameras hidden inside decoys that look & smell like oneof > them, and I've seen videos that

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Hi John, <...at the instant the air molecule hit you, your conscious experience will not have changed nor would that of anybody else.> Your conscious experience doesn't change like it would change if you are hit by a brick, but the quantum state of your body changes (it is now entangled with the

Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Hi Jesse, excellent points! Replies inline below. On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 3:14 PM Jesse Mazer wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:26 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: >> >> >> >> In Chapter 8 I argued that the cosmic operating system is not less >> than personal, but more than personal. If the

Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:26 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: > > > In Chapter 8 I argued that the cosmic operating system is not less > than personal, but more than personal. If the cosmic operating system > is super alive, super conscious and super intelligent, then cosmic > operating system = God. >

Re: [Extropolis] Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:26 AM Giulio Prisco wrote: Hi Giulio >< "If technological resurrection needs a perfect copy of a quantum state] >> you'd become a different person many trillions of times every second" > > > *"**This contradicts what you just said about deterministic evolution". *

Re: Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Hi John, In Chapter 8 I argued that the cosmic operating system is not less than personal, but more than personal. If the cosmic operating system is super alive, super conscious and super intelligent, then cosmic operating system = God. By the way, I've completed the book draft! In a few days

Irrational mechanics, draft Ch. 14

Giulio Prisco wrote on https://www.turingchurch.com/p/irrational-mechanics-draft-ch-14 >*"I’ve been talking of the ultimate God (the cosmic operating system, aka > Mind at Large" [...] The cosmic operating system is alive and aware, or > better super alive and super aware, and computes above and

Re: Risk tolerance and the Singularity

Immortality is overrated. On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 5:15 PM John Clark wrote: > Richard Ngo, a top researcher at open AI, recently said something rather > interesting: > > "*The closer we get to the singularity the lower my risk tolerance gets. > I’d already ruled out skydiving and paragliding.

Risk tolerance and the Singularity

Richard Ngo, a top researcher at open AI, recently said something rather interesting: "*The closer we get to the singularity the lower my risk tolerance gets. I’d already ruled out skydiving and paragliding. Last year I started wearing a helmet consistently while cycling. I think 2024 might be

Re: A Robotics Breakthrough

So far it's pick up and place things.  Impressive in it's understanding.  Can repair old plumbing?  I've got a 31K$ project for it. Brent On 3/13/2024 2:11 PM, John Clark wrote: Language models are great but for AI to really make an impact on society large enough to be called a Singularity

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