Re: A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation
On 28.05.2012 17:48 John Mikes said the following: Evgenij: to your last par (small remark): (and I repeat the outburst of a religious scientist upon my post questioning his 'faith'): Who gave you the audacity to feel so superior to (some?) WORKING CLASS? (I apologize: you seem to be only the messenger) Then again (in the message): GENTLEMEN? and WHAT moral norms? Would gays be included? and why would women excluded? WHAT morality would be required? Read the SCRIPTs (maybe more than just the Jewish Bible) and you will be shaken in your morals of the past centuries' mostly western belief. Girls in good standing, i.e. Ishtar's virgins (whores?) who had to conceive by a stranger for money to prove their fertility and find a decent husband? Consequently the offering of the first born because they were most likely the offspring of other than the husband? and so on and on. Pompei was later, but still in the 'biblical' morals. Remarks of this kind should be explained/understood better. Sorry for the outburst LohnM Hi John, I was just kidding. I should say though that the movie Pornography: A Secret History of Civilization is very enjoyable when they describe how the Victorian society has reacted to findings in Pompei. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art_in_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum Do you have other explanation why this book is so expansive? Evgenii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation
On 5/28/2012 12:18 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 28.05.2012 17:48 John Mikes said the following: Evgenij: to your last par (small remark): (and I repeat the outburst of a religious scientist upon my post questioning his 'faith'): Who gave you the audacity to feel so superior to (some?) WORKING CLASS? (I apologize: you seem to be only the messenger) Then again (in the message): GENTLEMEN? and WHAT moral norms? Would gays be included? and why would women excluded? WHAT morality would be required? Read the SCRIPTs (maybe more than just the Jewish Bible) and you will be shaken in your morals of the past centuries' mostly western belief. Girls in good standing, i.e. Ishtar's virgins (whores?) who had to conceive by a stranger for money to prove their fertility and find a decent husband? Consequently the offering of the first born because they were most likely the offspring of other than the husband? and so on and on. Pompei was later, but still in the 'biblical' morals. Remarks of this kind should be explained/understood better. Sorry for the outburst LohnM Hi John, I was just kidding. I should say though that the movie Pornography: A Secret History of Civilization is very enjoyable when they describe how the Victorian society has reacted to findings in Pompei. See for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_art_in_Pompeii_and_Herculaneum Do you have other explanation why this book is so expansive? Evgenii It is expensive because demand for many copies of it is low and thus costs per unit are high. Usually only university libraries purchase such books. -- Onward! Stephen Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. ~ Francis Bacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation
On 26.05.2012 07:57 Stephen P. King said the following: On 5/26/2012 1:50 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/LCCOMP/en/Files/Entries/2012/5/23_A_Computable_Universe.html Overview This volume, with a foreword by Sir Roger Penrose, discusses the foundations of computation in relation to nature. It focuses on two main questions: What is computation? How does nature compute? The contributors are world-renowned experts who have helped shape a cutting-edge computational understanding of the universe. They discuss computation in the world from a variety of perspectives, ranging from foundational concepts to pragmatic models to ontological conceptions and philosophical implications. Alas, it cost $138.00 US. That is too much. :_( A small remark. Recently I have watched Pornography: A Secret History of Civilization. It happened that after European have found so much erotics in Pompei, they have decided that only gentlemen with strict moral norms could watch such findings. Otherwise this could spoil the moral values in the working class. You could think the same way. The price is high not to destroy the moral of the working class. Evgenii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation
On 5/26/2012 2:51 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 26.05.2012 07:57 Stephen P. King said the following: On 5/26/2012 1:50 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/LCCOMP/en/Files/Entries/2012/5/23_A_Computable_Universe.html Overview This volume, with a foreword by Sir Roger Penrose, discusses the foundations of computation in relation to nature. It focuses on two main questions: What is computation? How does nature compute? The contributors are world-renowned experts who have helped shape a cutting-edge computational understanding of the universe. They discuss computation in the world from a variety of perspectives, ranging from foundational concepts to pragmatic models to ontological conceptions and philosophical implications. Alas, it cost $138.00 US. That is too much. :_( A small remark. Recently I have watched Pornography: A Secret History of Civilization. It happened that after European have found so much erotics in Pompei, they have decided that only gentlemen with strict moral norms could watch such findings. Otherwise this could spoil the moral values in the working class. You could think the same way. The price is high not to destroy the moral of the working class. Evgenii Knowledge is a dangerous thing. -- Onward! Stephen Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. ~ Francis Bacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation
http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/LCCOMP/en/Files/Entries/2012/5/23_A_Computable_Universe.html Overview This volume, with a foreword by Sir Roger Penrose, discusses the foundations of computation in relation to nature. It focuses on two main questions: What is computation? How does nature compute? The contributors are world-renowned experts who have helped shape a cutting-edge computational understanding of the universe. They discuss computation in the world from a variety of perspectives, ranging from foundational concepts to pragmatic models to ontological conceptions and philosophical implications. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: A Computable Universe: Understanding and Exploring Nature As Computation
On 5/26/2012 1:50 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: http://uncomp.uwe.ac.uk/LCCOMP/en/Files/Entries/2012/5/23_A_Computable_Universe.html Overview This volume, with a foreword by Sir Roger Penrose, discusses the foundations of computation in relation to nature. It focuses on two main questions: What is computation? How does nature compute? The contributors are world-renowned experts who have helped shape a cutting-edge computational understanding of the universe. They discuss computation in the world from a variety of perspectives, ranging from foundational concepts to pragmatic models to ontological conceptions and philosophical implications. Alas, it cost $138.00 US. That is too much. :_( -- Onward! Stephen Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. ~ Francis Bacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
