Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-17 Thread Craig Weinberg
:* 2013-01-16, 15:44:10 *Subject:* Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? The speed of light is altered when photons move in a medium whose index of refraction is greater than that of the vacuum (raw space). This change is what causes alterations in the movement of light

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Roger Clough
: everything-list Time: 2013-01-10, 11:47:26 Subject: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? Well Roger, Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to. Think of the number infinities in terms of a static MWI deterministic Block Universe BU. The number infinities exist

Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Spudboy100
Is experimentation even theoretically possible at the Planck length/width? This could effect EM, and, of course also impacts your Light post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-11 Thread Richard Ruquist
- Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-10, 11:47:26 Subject: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? Well Roger, Think of the number infinities that Bruno is always referencing to. Think of the number

Fw: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
of the aether is being replaced by new theories. - Have received the following content - Sender: makoilaci Receiver: Roger Clough Time: 2013-01-09, 12:15:42 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? just the opposite. general relativity brought aether back

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Roger Clough
-09, 10:29:00 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-09, 10:29:00 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: But in the end the magic of consciousness requires a 1p leap of faith. And vice versa.That's because they are the same thing. Consciousness is literally a leap across mechanism, computation, and physics. That is what free

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). Space

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: But in the end the magic of consciousness requires a 1p leap of faith. And vice versa.That's because they are the same thing. Consciousness is

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42:06 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: But in the end the magic of consciousness requires a

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:42:06 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:47:26 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote:

Re: Fw: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Craig Weinberg
: 2013-01-09, 12:15:42 Subject: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ? *just the opposite. general relativity brought aether back, but it is 4-dimensonal. *-- On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley

Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:08:35 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: Only the 1p perspective is dynamic or causes dynamicism- changes in the Block Universe. I should have mentioned that the Mind is a block universe

Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-09 Thread Roger Clough
Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). There is no aether. Electromagnetic waves propagate through nothing at all, suggesting to me, at least, that they, and their fields, are nonphysical. [Roger Clough],

Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). Space-time remains physical, here. There is no aether. Electromagnetic waves propagate through nothing at all, suggesting to

Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

2013-01-09 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 09 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Roger Clough wrote: Bruno, Another matter is that since the michaelson-morley experiment, space itself does not exist (is nonphysical). Space-time remains physical, here. There is no