Re: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)

2013-06-19 Thread Richard Ruquist
Google does not know about 'Gauriga and Vilenkins Chaotic Inflation'.
It needs to be educated.
yanniru


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:

 The article seems to go along with Gauriga and Vilenkins Chaotic
 Inflation.  This would be occupying the phase space in the article. Is this
 what you see as well?
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 From: Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
 To: - Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
 Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:29 am
 Subject: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)

  Hi

 Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the
 phrase beyond spacetime,
 I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now
 being investigated
 by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin.

 Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for
 one form of beyond spacetime:

 Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space

 http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U

 As I gather, the issue has arisen from:

 1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and

 2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider
 the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but
 I believe of their sum.

 In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond
 spacetime,
 while momentum, a  vector,  is not.

 Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime,
 perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy.

 - Roger Clough



  Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013
 See my Leibniz site at
  http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough
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Re: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)

2013-06-18 Thread spudboy100

The article seems to go along with Gauriga and Vilenkins Chaotic Inflation.  
This would be occupying the phase space in the article. Is this what you see as 
well?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
To: - Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:29 am
Subject: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)



Hi 
 
Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the phrase 
beyond spacetime,
I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now being 
investigated
by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin.
 
Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for 
one form of beyond spacetime:
 
Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space 
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U
 
As I gather, the issue has arisen from:
 
1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and
 
2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider
the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but
I believe of their sum.
 
In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond spacetime,
while momentum, a  vector,  is not. 
 
Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime,
perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy.
 
- Roger Clough
 
 
 

Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013 
See my Leibniz site at

http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough

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In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)

2013-06-17 Thread Roger Clough
Hi 

Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the phrase 
beyond spacetime,
I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now being 
investigated
by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin.

Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for 
one form of beyond spacetime:

Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space 
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U

As I gather, the issue has arisen from:

1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and

2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider
the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but
I believe of their sum.

In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond spacetime,
while momentum, a  vector,  is not. 

Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime,
perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy.

- Roger Clough



Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013 
See my Leibniz site at
http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough

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