Re: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)
Google does not know about 'Gauriga and Vilenkins Chaotic Inflation'. It needs to be educated. yanniru On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: The article seems to go along with Gauriga and Vilenkins Chaotic Inflation. This would be occupying the phase space in the article. Is this what you see as well? -Original Message- From: Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net To: - Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:29 am Subject: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy) Hi Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the phrase beyond spacetime, I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now being investigated by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin. Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for one form of beyond spacetime: Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U As I gather, the issue has arisen from: 1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and 2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but I believe of their sum. In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond spacetime, while momentum, a vector, is not. Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime, perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy. - Roger Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013 See my Leibniz site at http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)
The article seems to go along with Gauriga and Vilenkins Chaotic Inflation. This would be occupying the phase space in the article. Is this what you see as well? -Original Message- From: Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net To: - Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:29 am Subject: In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy) Hi Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the phrase beyond spacetime, I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now being investigated by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin. Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for one form of beyond spacetime: Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U As I gather, the issue has arisen from: 1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and 2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but I believe of their sum. In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond spacetime, while momentum, a vector, is not. Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime, perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy. - Roger Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013 See my Leibniz site at http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
In spacetime (matter) and beyond spacetime (energy)
Hi Since there has been some question from materialists about my use of the phrase beyond spacetime, I thought I would show that this is a perfectly legitimate concept now being investigated by the likes of Roger Penrose and Lee Smolin. Here is a 2011 article discussing phase space, which is another name for one form of beyond spacetime: Beyond space-time: Welcome to phase space http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128241.700-beyond-spacetime-welcome-to-phase-space.html#.Ub7EqJy0S-U As I gather, the issue has arisen from: 1) Explorations beyond the spacetime world of Einstein, and 2) The fact if bodies collide inelastically, one has to consider the conservation not just of energy or of momentum, but I believe of their sum. In looking into this, I see that energy, being a scalar, is beyond spacetime, while momentum, a vector, is not. Since I have been referring to mind as being beyond spacetime, perhaps there is a connection between mind and energy. - Roger Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 6/17/2013 See my Leibniz site at http://team.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.