Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: If you expose a deterministic system to a set of inputs that represent a particular environment, the system will react in the one and only way it can to that set of inputs.

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The word 'universe does not refer to anything except the observable experiential first person plural (sharable among collection of programs) that arithmetic places on us as a consequence of addition and multiplication. I

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: The text is well done. Thanks. A question. What would be the consequence of the nomologicalism for a person that would like to earn some more money? Well, let us not consider the case when one successfully sells the text

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/25/2010 11:59 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: If you expose a deterministic system to a set of inputs that represent a particular environment, the system will react in the

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: If you can find a Putnam-mapping that can extracts a representation of a conscious entity, you can also find a mapping that extracts a representation of an environment to go with it. Sure - but it's not our

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/26/2010 12:15 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: If you can find a Putnam-mapping that can extracts a representation of a conscious entity, you can also find a mapping that extracts a representation of an environment to go

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Sep 2010, at 05:26, Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of property to make any sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties of

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-25 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
The text is well done. Thanks. A question. What would be the consequence of the nomologicalism for a person that would like to earn some more money? Well, let us not consider the case when one successfully sells the text about nomologicalism. Evgenii on 21.09.2010 19:10 Rex Allen said the

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-24 Thread 1Z
On 24 Sep, 04:26, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of property to make any sense of that.  In what sense is it like

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-24 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Zpeterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allenrexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of property to make any sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-23 Thread 1Z
On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with deterministic laws? Your performance on any

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-23 Thread Rex Allen
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of property to make any sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties of charge, mass, spin, or color? it's a

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-22 Thread 1Z
On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with deterministic laws? Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some property called intelligence, but rather is an inevitable outcome of the universe's

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-22 Thread Rex Allen
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, 1Z peterdjo...@yahoo.com wrote: On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen rexallen31...@gmail.com wrote: What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with deterministic laws? Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some property called

Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-21 Thread Rex Allen
What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with deterministic laws? Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some property called intelligence, but rather is an inevitable outcome of the universe's initial conditions and governing causal laws. The questions you