Re: Is China racing to AGI?

2025-11-29 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 3:51 PM Brent Meeker  wrote:

* > Have you looked into the cerebras "server farm on a wafer"?
> https://www.cerebras.ai/ <https://www.cerebras.ai/>  It promises a huge
> speed up and power saving for problems that allow parllelization...which is
> LLM's and others for which neural nets are advantageous.*
>


*The Cerebras Technology works very well for inference, that is to say for
running an AI once you have it, but when it comes to the computing power
needed to develop a new cutting edge AI, Nvidia chips still have an
advantage. You may be interested in the following video: *

*Cerebras CS-3 wafer-scale million-core AI chip, 25kW 125 PFLOPS inference
engine* <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlvfZulPYaw&list=WL&index=20>

*John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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> Brent
>
> On 11/29/2025 12:30 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
> *Scott Alexander thinks the answer is "no", he says says this : *
>
> *"**China is a very practical country. The Chinese don’t really believe
> in recursive self-improvement or superintelligence. If they did, they
> wouldn’t be so blasé about the possibility of America having AIs 1-2 years
> more advanced than theirs - if our models pass the superintelligence
> threshold while theirs are still approaching it, then their advantage in
> humanoids and drones no longer seems so impressive."*
>
> *And after I've read the following article I'm beginning to think he might
> be right, the US certainly has a huge advantage over China in the amount of
> computing power it has available: *
>
> *Is China Racing to AGI?*
> <https://www.chinatalk.media/p/is-china-agi-pilled?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>
>
>
>

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Re: Is China racing to AGI?

2025-11-29 Thread Brent Meeker
Have you looked into the cerebras "server farm on a wafer"? 
https://www.cerebras.ai/  It promises a huge speed up /and power saving/ 
for problems that allow parllelization...which is LLM's and others for 
which neural nets are advantageous.


Brent

On 11/29/2025 12:30 PM, John Clark wrote:

*Scott Alexanderthinks the answer is "no", he says says this : *

*"**/China is a very practical country. The Chinese don’t really 
believe in recursive self-improvement or superintelligence. If they 
did, they wouldn’t be so blasé about the possibility of America having 
AIs 1-2 years more advanced than theirs - if our models pass the 
superintelligence threshold while theirs are still approaching it, 
then their advantage in humanoids and drones no longer seems so 
impressive./"*


*And after I've read the following article I'm beginning to think he 
might be right, the US certainly has a _huge_ advantageover China in 
the amount of computing power it has available: *


*Is China Racing to AGI?* 
<https://www.chinatalk.media/p/is-china-agi-pilled?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>


*John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

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Is China racing to AGI?

2025-11-29 Thread John Clark
*Scott Alexander thinks the answer is "no", he says says this : *

*"**China is a very practical country. The Chinese don’t really believe in
recursive self-improvement or superintelligence. If they did, they wouldn’t
be so blasé about the possibility of America having AIs 1-2 years more
advanced than theirs - if our models pass the superintelligence threshold
while theirs are still approaching it, then their advantage in humanoids
and drones no longer seems so impressive."*

*And after I've read the following article I'm beginning to think he might
be right, the US certainly has a huge advantage over China in the amount of
computing power it has available: *

*Is China Racing to AGI?*
<https://www.chinatalk.media/p/is-china-agi-pilled?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>

*John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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