R: origin of notion of computable universes

2002-04-16 Thread scerir

(maybe) just 'a bit ' off topic, but interesting..

Jorge Liuis Borges: "Las Ruinas Circulares" [circa 1941]
http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/00/pwillen1/lit/cruins.htm
http://www.bibliotecasvirtuales.com/biblioteca/Borges/ruinascirculares.htm

No one saw him disembark in the unanimous night, no one saw
the bamboo canoe sink into the sacred mud, but in a few days
there was no one who did not know that the taciturn man came
from the South and that his home had been one of those
numberless villages upstream in the deeply cleft side of the mountain,
where the Zend language has not been contaminated by
Greek and where leprosy is infrequent. What is certain is that
the grey man kissed the mud, climbed up the bank with pushing
aside (probably, without feeling) the blades which were lacerating
his flesh, and crawled, nauseated and bloodstained, up to
the circular enclosure crowned with a stone tiger or horse,
which sometimes was the color of flame and now was that of ashes.
This circle was a temple which had been devoured by ancient fires,
profaned by the miasmal jungle, and whose god no longer received
the homage of men. The stranger stretched himself out beneath
the pedestal. He was awakened by the sun high overhead.
He was not astonished to find that his wounds had healed;
he closed his pallid eyes and slept, not through weakness of flesh
but through determination of will. He knew that this temple was
the place required for his invincible intent; he knew that the incessant
trees had not succeeded in strangling the ruins of another propitious
temple downstream which had once belonged to gods now burned
and dead; he knew that his immediate obligation was to dream.
Toward midnight he was awakened by the inconsolable shriek of a bird.
Tracks of bare feet, some figs and a jug warned him that the men of the
region had been spying respectfully on his sleep, soliciting his protection
or afraid of his magic. He felt a chill of fear, and sought out a sepulchral
niche in the dilapidated wall where he concealed himself among unfamiliar
leaves.

The purpose which guided him was not impossible, though supernatural.
He wanted to dream a man; he wanted to dream him in minute entirety
and impose him on reality. This magic project had exhausted the entire
expanse of his mind; if someone had asked him his name or to relate some
event of his former life, he would not have been able to give an answer. This
uninhabited, ruined temple suited him, for it is contained a minimum of visible
world; the proximity of the workmen also suited him, for they took it upon
themselves to provide for his frugal needs. The rice and fruit they brought him
were nourishment enough for his body, which was consecrated to the sole task
of sleeping and dreaming.

At first, his dreams were chaotic; then in a short while they became dialectic
in nature. The stranger dreamed that he was in the center of a circular
amphitheater which was more or less the burnt temple; clouds of taciturn students
filled the tiers of seats; the faces of the farthest ones hung at a distance of many
centuries and as high as the stars, but their features were completely precise.
The man lectured his pupils on anatomy, cosmography, and magic: the faces
listened anxiously and tried to answer understandingly, as if they guessed
the importance of that examination which would redeem one of them from his
condition of empty illusion and interpolate him into the real world.
Asleep or awake, the man thought over the answers of his phantoms,
did not allow himself to be deceived by imposters, and in certain perplexities
he sensed a growing intelligence. He was seeking a soul worthy of participating
in the universe.

After nine or ten nights he understood with a certain bitterness that he could
expect nothing from those pupils who accepted his doctrine passively, but
that he could expect something from those who occasionally dared to oppose him.
The former group, although worthy of love and affection, could not ascend to the
level of individuals; the latter pre-existed to a slightly greater degree. One 
afternoon
(now afternoons were also given over to sleep, now he was only awake for a couple
hours at daybreak) he dismissed the vast illusory student body for good and kept
only one pupil. He was a taciturn, sallow boy, at times intractable, and whose sharp
features resembled of those of his dreamer. The brusque elimination of his fellow
students did not disconcert him for long; after a few private lessons, his progress
was enough to astound the teacher. Nevertheless, a catastrophe took place.
One day, the man emerged from his sleep as if from a viscous desert, looked at the
useless afternoon light which he immediately confused with the dawn,
and understood that he had not dreamed. All that night and all day long, the 
intolerable
lucidity of insomnia fell upon him. He tried exploring the forest, to lose his 
strength;
among the hemlock he barely succeeded in experiencing several shor

R: origin of notion of computable universes

2002-04-15 Thread scerir

Karl Svozil, "Randomness & Undecidability in
Physics", World Scientific, 1993, [chapters 10.2 - 10.5]
also speaks about the simulaton argument.

It is not unreasonable - he says - to speculate about the 
logico-algebraic  structure of "automaton" universes (universes 
"computer" generated). 

If there is a hidden computing entity, and if this computing
entity is "universal", there is no reason to exclude the so
called (intrinsic) "calculus of propositions".

Physical properties corresponding to _experimental_ propositions
are identified - in the quantum domain - with "projection"
operators on the Hilbert space. Thus Hilbert "lattice" corresponds
to a lattice of experimental propositions. Algebraic relations and 
operations between these experimental propositions are called 
"calculus of propositions". Hilbert lattice and calculus of propositions 
_should_ be equivalent, even in the quantum domain. (Lattice theory 
is a framework for organizing structures such as experimental 
or logical statements). There is no _recursive_ enumeration 
of the axioms of Hilbert lattices.

It is not unreasonable asking something like: do we live in a 
(quantum) universe created by some "universal" computation ? 

Thus, to test such speculation, we must look for _phenomena_
which correspond to "automaton" calculus of propositions _not_ 
contained in a Hilbert lattice (or its subalgebras).








R: origin of notion of computable universes

2002-04-15 Thread scerir

Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz [The Monadology, 64-66] wrote:

But the machines of nature, namely, living bodies, are still machines
in their smallest parts ad infinitum. It is this that constitutes the
difference between nature and art, that is to say, between the divine
art and ours. And the Author of nature has been able to employ this divine
and infinitely wonderful power of art, because each portion of matter is not
only infinitely divisible, as the ancients observed, but is also actually
subdivided without end, each part into further parts, of which each has
some motion of its own; otherwise it would be impossible for each portion
of matter to express the whole universe. Whence it appears that in the
smallest particle of matter there is a world of creatures, living beings,
animals, entelechies, souls. Each portion of matter may be conceived as
like a garden full of plants and like a pond full of fishes. But each
branch of every plant, each member of every animal, each drop of its
liquid parts is also some such garden or pond.
And though the earth and the air which are between the plants of the garden,
or the water which is between the fish of the pond, be neither plant nor
fish; yet they also contain plants and fishes, but mostly so minute as
to be imperceptible to us.

http://testweb.wpunj.edu/cohss/philosophy/COURSES/PHIL312/LEIBNIZ/LEIBNIZ4.H
TM
http://www.wpunj.edu/cohss/philosophy/COURSES/PHIL399/LEIBNIZ.HTM

And Ockam (with Pier Damiani - De Divina Omnipotentia - and
Aristotle) states that not even God, who is in possession of
"potentia absoluta" - it means: miracles - not just of "potentia
ordinata" - usual physical laws, could erase the past, or re-write it.
Does it mean that, according to Ockam, simulations are forbidden?
It seems that Ockam (as the Aquinas and also Wyclif) thinks
that God could create the multiverse, or many universes.

Leibniz also wrote: "although the whole of this life were
said to be nothing but a dream and the physical world nothing but a
phantasm, I should call this dream or phantasm real enough if, using
reason well, we were never deceived by it.".







R: origin of notion of computable universes

2002-04-15 Thread scerir

- Italo Calvino -

'Invisible Cities' (1972)

VI, Cities and the sky.

In Eudossia, that extends up and low, with meandering alleys, steps, narrow
lanes, hovels, a carpet is kept in which you can contemplate the real shape
of the city. At first nothing seems to resemble less Eudossia than the
design of the carpet, ordered in symmetrical figures that repeat their
patterns along straight and circular lines, woven of needleful of dazzling
colors, which alternating wefts you can follow all along the warp. But if
you stop to observe it with attention, you perceive that to every place of
the carpet corresponds a place of the city and that all the things contained
in the city are comprised in the design, arranged according to their true
relationships, which escape to your eye distracted from the coming and going
from the swarming from the awful crush. All the confusion in Eudossia, the
bray of the mules, the spots of lamp-black, the smell of fish, is what
appear in the partial perspective that you pick; but the carpet proves that
there is a point from which the city shows its true proportions, the
geometric outline implicit in its every minimal detail.

Getting lost in Eudossia is easy: but when you concentrates staring the
carpet you recognize the road that you were looking for in a crimson or
indigo or amaranth thread that through a long round lets you enter in a
purple fence that is your true point of arrival. Every inhabitant of
Eudossia confronts to the immovable order of the carpet his own image of the
city, an anguish, and everyone can find hidden between the arabesques an
answer, the story of his life, the twists of his destiny.

An oracle was consultated about the mysterious relationship between two such
different objects as the carpet and the city. One of the two objects, - it
was the response, - has the shape that the gods gave to the starry sky and
to the orbits around which the worlds spin; the other one is an approximate
glare, like every human work.

The augurs since so long were sure that the harmonic design of the carpet
was of divine nature; in this sense the oracle was interpreted, without
giving place to controversies. But in the same way you can draw the opposite
conclusion: that the real map of the universe is the city of Eudossia as it
is, a spot that spreads without shape, with zigzag roads, houses collapsing
above one another in the dust, fires, cries in the dark.













R: origin of notion of computable universes

2002-04-15 Thread scerir

Try this http://www.nickbostrom.com
and the link  'do we live in a [computer] simulation?'.
Regards,
- Serafino