Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2009/2/11 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: Also I still don't understand how I could be 30 years old and not 4, there are a lot more OM of 4 than 30... it is the argument you use for 1000 years old, I don't see why it can hold

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: I don't get it. Why should the measure suddenly decrease at 80 (or 100) years old ? Why not 30 ? Why not 4 ? Heart disease. Cancer. Stroke. Degradation of various organs leading to death. Such ailments are known to strike

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Brent Meeker
Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2009/2/11 Jack Mallah jackmal...@yahoo.com mailto:jackmal...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com mailto:allco...@gmail.com wrote: Also I still don't understand how I could be 30 years old and not 4, there are a lot

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote: Indeed there seems to be a conflict between MWI of QM and the feeling of consciousness. QM evolves unitarily to preserve total probability, which implies that the splitting into different quasi-classical subspaces reduces

RE: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Jesse Mazer
Brent Meeker wrote: Indeed there seems to be a conflict between MWI of QM and the feeling of consciousness. QM evolves unitarily to preserve total probability, which implies that the splitting into different quasi-classical subspaces reduces the measure of each subspace. But there's no

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2009/2/11 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com 2009/2/11 Jesse Mazer laserma...@hotmail.com Brent Meeker wrote: Indeed there seems to be a conflict between MWI of QM and the feeling of consciousness. QM evolves unitarily to preserve total probability, which implies that the splitting

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2009/2/11 Jesse Mazer laserma...@hotmail.com Brent Meeker wrote: Indeed there seems to be a conflict between MWI of QM and the feeling of consciousness. QM evolves unitarily to preserve total probability, which implies that the splitting into different quasi-classical subspaces

RE: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Jesse Mazer
2009/2/11 Quentin Anciaux Because the point is to know from a 1st person perspective that it exists a next subjective moment... if there is, QI holds. Even if in the majority of universes I'm dead... from 1st perspective I cannot be dead hence the only moments that count is where I

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Brent Meeker
Jesse Mazer wrote: Brent Meeker wrote: Indeed there seems to be a conflict between MWI of QM and the feeling of consciousness. QM evolves unitarily to preserve total probability, which implies that the splitting into different quasi-classical subspaces reduces the measure of each

Re: children and measure

2009-02-11 Thread Brent Meeker
Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2009/2/11 Jesse Mazer laserma...@hotmail.com mailto:laserma...@hotmail.com Brent Meeker wrote: Indeed there seems to be a conflict between MWI of QM and the feeling of consciousness. QM evolves unitarily to preserve total

re: children and measure

2009-02-10 Thread Jack Mallah
--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: Also I still don't understand how I could be 30 years old and not 4, there are a lot more OM of 4 than 30... it is the argument you use for 1000 years old, I don't see why it can hold for 30 ? Quentin, why would the measure of 4

Re: children and measure

2009-02-10 Thread russell standish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 06:43:11PM -0800, Jack Mallah wrote: --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: Also I still don't understand how I could be 30 years old and not 4, there are a lot more OM of 4 than 30... it is the argument you use for 1000 years old, I don't