Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-06 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 3:03:19 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/6/2019 3:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 5 Jan 2019, at 22:18, Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/5/2019 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 4 Jan 2019, at 19:35, Brent Meeker > wrote: >

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-06 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/6/2019 3:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 5 Jan 2019, at 22:18, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/5/2019 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 Jan 2019, at 19:35, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/4/2019 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 Jan 2019, at 05:16, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/3/2019 6:01

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 5 Jan 2019, at 22:18, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/5/2019 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 19:35, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/4/2019 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > On 4 Jan 2019, at 05:16, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-06 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 1:49:06 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/5/2019 9:49 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > >> But is this consistent with https://arxiv.org/abs/1109.5191v2 which >> showed spacetime to be smooth down to 1/525 of the Planck length? >> >> Brent >> > > *If we can't

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/5/2019 9:49 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: But is this consistent with https://arxiv.org/abs/1109.5191v2 which showed spacetime to be smooth down to 1/525 of the Planck length? Brent *If we can't measure a Planck length, how can

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-05 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 2:33:54 AM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php > > Theoretical physicists developed a theory called loop quantum gravity in > the 1990s that marries the

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-05 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/5/2019 1:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 Jan 2019, at 19:35, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/4/2019 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 Jan 2019, at 05:16, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/3/2019 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: As a scientist, I just count the evidences, and evaluate the

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 19:35, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/4/2019 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 4 Jan 2019, at 05:16, Brent Meeker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/3/2019 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: As a scientist, I just count the evidences, and evaluate the plausibility

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-04 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/4/2019 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 4 Jan 2019, at 05:16, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1/3/2019 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: As a scientist, I just count the evidences, and evaluate the plausibility of the big picture proposed.I predicted the many-world appearances much before I

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 05:16, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2019 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> As a scientist, I just count the evidences, and evaluate the plausibility of >> the big picture proposed.I predicted the many-world appearances much before >> I realised the physicists were

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2019 6:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: As a scientist, I just count the evidences, and evaluate the plausibility of the big picture proposed.I predicted the many-world appearances much before I realised the physicists were already open to this for empirical reason. Once you understand

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Jan 2019, at 02:26, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> > On

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 1:26:20 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 12:18:50 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> > On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green wrote: >> > >> > David Deutsch

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2019-01-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 Dec 2018, at 18:56, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green > > > wrote: > > > > David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual universes > > are

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-30 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 5:56:28 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> > On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green wrote: >> > >> > David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual >>

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-30 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 30, 2018 at 12:10:12 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green > wrote: > > > > David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual universes > are discrete, but the multiverse as a whole is continuous). > > > > “within each

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-30 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Dec 2018, at 16:29, Mason Green wrote: > > David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual universes are > discrete, but the multiverse as a whole is continuous). > > “within each universe all observable quantities are discrete, but the > multiverse as a whole is a

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Dec 2018, at 20:58, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/24/2018 5:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 24 Dec 2018, at 07:44, Brent Meeker >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/23/2018 8:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-25 Thread Lawrence Crowell
The singularity of a black hole represents a change in phase of a system. The path integral defines states of the form |ψ> = Z|0> = ∫D[φ]q e^{-iH(φ)t/ħ}|0>. The partition function in statistical mechanics is of the form Z = sum_n e^{-E_nβ}. The primary differences are the partition function

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-24 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/24/2018 5:51 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Dec 2018, at 07:44, Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/23/2018 8:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-24 Thread Philip Thrift
On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 9:29:16 AM UTC-6, Mason Green wrote: > > David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual universes > are discrete, but the multiverse as a whole is continuous). > > “within each universe all observable quantities are discrete, but the >

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-24 Thread Mason Green
David Deutsch suggested something like this I (that individual universes are discrete, but the multiverse as a whole is continuous). “within each universe all observable quantities are discrete, but the multiverse as a whole is a continuum. When the equations of quantum theory describe a

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 24 Dec 2018, at 07:44, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 12/23/2018 8:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker > > wrote: >> >> >> On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/23/2018 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:49 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:45 PM Jason Resch mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/23/2018 8:45 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php Theoretical physicists developed a

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 11:49:59 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:49 PM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:45 PM Jason Resch > > wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker >> > wrote: >>> On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:49 PM Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:45 PM Jason Resch wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote >>> >>> >>> https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:45 PM Jason Resch wrote: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > >> On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote >> >> >> https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php >> >> Theoretical physicists developed a theory called loop quantum

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:33 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php > > Theoretical physicists developed a theory called loop quantum gravity in > the 1990s that marries the laws of

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-23 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 8:33:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php > > Theoretical physicists developed a theory called loop quantum gravity in > the 1990s that marries

Re: "No black-hole singularities" in an undated loop-quantum-gravity theory

2018-12-22 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/22/2018 12:04 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2018-12/lsu-be122018.php Theoretical physicists developed a theory called loop quantum gravity in the 1990s that marries the laws of microscopic physics, or quantum mechanics, with gravity, which explains